Bug 439273 - No GUI SysAdmin support for hard wired permanent LAN use of DHCP IP number assignment
No GUI SysAdmin support for hard wired permanent LAN use of DHCP IP number as...
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: system-config-network (Show other bugs)
All Linux
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Assigned To: Harald Hoyer
Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Reported: 2008-03-27 16:02 EDT by archimerged Ark submedes
Modified: 2008-03-29 16:41 EDT (History)
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Description archimerged Ark submedes 2008-03-27 16:02:27 EDT
Description of problem:

NetworkManager is not a suitable application for desktop startup on a hardwired
permanent LAN with a dedicated DHCP server responsible for providing IP numbers
to desktops.  DHCP (for the hardwired interface only) should run independently
of NetworkManager, immediately after network is started.  This can be configured
by hand, but it is the right way to do things and ought to be an easily
accessible option.  I use the configuration in a home network with a 10 year old
256Mib 300MHz i586 Fedora router/firewall/web server/DHCP BOOTP server/localnet
nameserver/caching nameserver/NTP server/etc. in front of my DSL modem.  Others
must do this too.  Why can't it be a standard option?

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How reproducible:
every install

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install system on a desktop
2. Ask for automatic assignment of hostname, IP, etc. on the hardwired interface.
3. Note that NTP does not startup properly.
Actual results:
IP number is not assigned until NetworkManager starts, which is too late for
some services like NTP and NFS.

Expected results:

There should be an additional option in the install network interface
configuration for hardwired LAN with local DHCP server and remotely assigned
static IP (or even Broadband with purchased permanent IP) vs. Broadband or
dial-up or wireless with dynamic IP.  Why should I have to enter the IP number
into each desktop by hand?  I want it centralized on the DHCP server, and I
don't want to have to do extensive manual sysadmin work on each desktop to make
NTP and NFS work.

Additional info:
Comment 1 Harald Hoyer 2008-03-27 18:02:56 EDT
system-config-network is a GUI
In there, you can specify, if NetworkManager should control the interface, or not.
If not, the interface should come up with DHCP on boot time, without any user
logged in.
Comment 2 archimerged Ark submedes 2008-03-29 16:41:12 EDT
Ok, but the interface does not come up with DHCP until NetworkManager runs, even
though it though the controlled by NetworkManager box is not checked.  By that
time, ntpd has discarded all of the servers and is effectively dead until
restarted.  Leaving this not-a-bug:  I will file a few different bugs reporting
the actual problem (also the install dialog does not have anything about Network

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