Bug 440962 - Please avoid Fedora-isms
Summary: Please avoid Fedora-isms
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Status: CLOSED RAWHIDE
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: udev
Version: rawhide
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
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low
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Assignee: Harald Hoyer
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2008-04-04 18:02 UTC by David Zeuthen
Modified: 2013-03-06 03:55 UTC (History)
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Last Closed: 2008-04-05 16:31:26 UTC
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Description David Zeuthen 2008-04-04 18:02:36 UTC
/sbin/start_udev claims that /lib/udev/devices is deprecated and that
/etc/udev/makedev.d should be used instead. This is simply not true,
/lib/udev/devices is _not_ deprecated upstream and at and /etc/udev/makedev.d is
a pure Fedora-ism. It seems this is isn't even proposed / discussed upstream either.

This is very bad form, you're forcing all upstream packages that use this
upstream facility to make local invasive changes. Stuff like this needs to
happen upstream. Please revert this. Thanks.

Comment 1 Harald Hoyer 2008-04-05 11:33:39 UTC
well /lib/udev/devices was invented by me. so it is a Fedora-ism also :-)

Comment 2 Kay Sievers 2008-04-05 14:49:41 UTC
Yeah, but you had /etc/udev/devices/, and we both and the Ubuntu guys agreed in
Nov 2005 to make that model the upstream default, but at /lib/udev/devices/. So
/lib/udev/devices/ was never specific to Fedora, I think. :)

http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/udev/udev.spec?rev=1.122&sortby=date&view=markup

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfc9761d8846a5f6f437fb599bc6817d14efbec2

Cheers,
Kay

Comment 3 Harald Hoyer 2008-04-05 15:42:55 UTC
the problem with devices not in /dev is that people doing s.th. like:
# grep -r /lib _symbol_xyz
are getting bitten by strange errors, so I moved away from /lib/udev/devices in
the first place (after bugzillas for this). 
But, yes, I can remove that warning (or display it only once).

Comment 4 David Zeuthen 2008-04-05 16:27:06 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> But, yes, I can remove that warning (or display it only once).

Yes, please remove the warning. Displaying it once isn't really good enough; the
point here is that we don't want Fedora-specific patches for packages using this
facility; does that make sense?

Comment 5 Harald Hoyer 2008-04-05 16:30:43 UTC
udev-120-2


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