Description of problem: Load font TC under konqueror and noticed that some English plaphabet is not bold as they displayed with gedit. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): kdebase-4.0.3-5.fc9.i386 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Load the font TC with konqueror in f9 beta-zh_CN 2.Compare against the output of gedit 3. Actual results: Different bold effect Expected results: Should be same Additional info: Similar cases in f9 alpha-ko_KR/zh_TW/ja_JP/zh_CN
Created attachment 301476 [details] Screenshot attached illustrating the problem
That's WQY Bitmap Song, right? I guess this is still the "WQY claims latin letters" problem, gedit is just using a latin font, Konqueror is using the WQY font throughout (which looks bad for latin letters).
(In reply to comment #2) > That's WQY Bitmap Song, right? > > I guess this is still the "WQY claims latin letters" problem, gedit is just > using a latin font, Konqueror is using the WQY font throughout (which looks bad > for latin letters). Yes, WQY Bitmap Song, it is.
I did not get any "bold style" appearance for Chinese fonts on F9 for QT/KDE apps. Bold style is OK for my QT/KDE apps onF8.
Most Qt/KDE apps in F9 are Qt 4, most Qt/KDE apps in F8 are Qt 3, those are very different codebases especially in this domain (font rendering). Please try Qt/KDE 4 apps in F8 (e.g. marble) and/or Qt/KDE 3 apps in F9 (e.g. KMail in kdepim) for a fair comparison. (And sorry for nitpicking, but it's "Qt", not "QT". ;-) )
;-) just press shift for input "qtkde"... Thanks.I'll try kmail later, since my F9 is beta with latest rawhide. take a look at http://www.linux-ren.org/modules/everestblog/?p=131
Changing version to '9' as part of upcoming Fedora 9 GA. More information and reason for this action is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping
Is this still an issue with the latest KDE 4.0.5?
To my opinion, this bug shall be filed to Qt or Xft. Let me explain: With earlier versions of Xft library, fake-bold (automatically emboldening a bitmap glyph produce its bold face) was not supported (http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-bugzilla-noise/2004-October/003643.html ). So, since the first release of wqy-bitmap-fonts, we have been including a pre-made bold face for each bitmap size (9-11pt). We recently stopped doing that (http://wenq.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=655), because we thought that Xft is mature enough for emboldening bitmaps if bold face is not provided. I updated the wqy-bitmap-fonts to reflect this change for Fedora. This also halve the file size for this package. The reported bug seems more like that Xft/Qt is not correct/consistent in handling automatic-emboldening bitmap fonts when bold face is missing. I would suggest either assigning this bug to kde/qt rendering library, or Xft. More input is also welcome to clarify the accurate source of this problem.
just realized Baif had found the right solution to this problem in his reply on May 9. Has this patch been accepted by KDE4 team?
This type of patches has to go to Trolltech, not KDE, and (unless it's already in 4.4) it will most likely not get in before Qt 4.5. Moreover, Qt 3 no longer gets updated, so if Qt 3 doesn't currently support this, this feature will never be supported in Qt 3.
I am still not really convinced any bold font is involved here in this report. To me it just looks to be the contrast of the light Chinese font and the dark Western font, no? I have generally found Chinese fonts to be pretty faint but maybe it is necessary for them to be so fine to be able render very detailed Hanzi characters? I think there was some discussion somewhat related to this pango issue between Qianqian and Behdad not so long ago on fedora-fonts-list IIRC and also elsewhere. Shao, I think if you specify a Chinese font in the gedit preferences it looks ok, no? So I think this is really comes down to pango. We could try reassigning to pango, but unless someone has some real ideas how to improve it upstream it is probably unlikely to get changed yet. (But sure, I guess the Qt embolden issue is worth pursuing upstream.)
If the problems are reported against QT apps I sort of doubt pango is involved. It would be nice to have a confirmation it works as expected in a pango app such as gedit though.
(In reply to comment #14) > If the problems are reported against QT apps I sort of doubt pango is involved. No, the complaint was that the rendering in konqueror and gedit is different. Actually Qt seems to be doing the right thing here and it is pango that is using a different font for the Western characters in the screenshot as is a well-known problem.
Sorry, Behdad...
I take back my Comment #10, which seems to be an unrelated issue with this bug. I agree with Jens, this is somewhat related to Pango, but I think it is likely a not-a-bug. The title of the bug is not accurate: what the submitter complained about is the mixing of bitmap Hanzi glyphs with Anti-aliased vector glyphs (he called it bold effect). This might well be a designed feature: if he selected "monospace" as font family, based on the fontconfig setting of wqy-bitmap-fonts, we will use "Dejavu Sans Mono" to display Latin glyphs, and wqy-bitmap-fonts to display the Hanzi glyphs. So, it looks correct to me. If the submitter prefer to use wqy-bitmap-fonts for all glyphs, he should select "WenQuanYi Bitmap Song" as the font name in gedit. If the submitter was complaining about the digits (such as "302" and "320") are inconsistent with Latin glyphs, then I would like to direct him to the old discussion with Behdad: http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com/msg00191.html
If the submitter or any of the reporters selected "bold" style and did not get any bold faces displayed, I think he should file a separate bug, as it is different from what the submitter originally reported.
requested by Jens Petersen (#27995)
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Is this still reproducible in F10 or F11? And do we have any clue which component(s) is/are actually at fault here and what needs to be fixed?
I verified this bug in kdebase-4.1.2-5.f10, and I find this bug can not be reproduced now, so I will close this bug.