Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 446318
Java using openoffice.org-base much slower in fedora 9
Last modified: 2009-07-14 12:44:26 EDT
Description of problem:
I upgraded my laptop to fedora 9, with the live installation + addition of some
packages, like openoffice.org. Office applications are *much* slower than in
fedora 8, most visible in import function of office base and query data
connection in office calc.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Importing medium sized spreadsheet (300k, 2200 rows) into base takes
approximately 8 minutes on my system, while it used to be only 15 seconds with
the same hardware.
Steps to Reproduce:
Is it possible that some of the non-native java code is used in the import task
(clipboard copy from calc) of the base? The performance impact seems huge. 8
minutes compared to 15 seconds can't be explained by the evolutionary
performance impact expected from the new release.
Didn't hear any complaints during the entire devel cycle. Assuming that it is a
hsqldb database that base is backing to, what's your java in F-9, i.e. what's
selected in in tools->options->openoffice.org->java ?
It seems that the problem actually is in Java. I installed Sun's 1.6.0 JRE and
the performance went through the roof. Selected default was gcj from
java-1.5.0-gcj-184.108.40.206-21.fc9.i386. I'll post another comments if I find more
problems. I would like to find the root cause of this, but I just don't have the
time right now.
You installed the "sun jre", I assume here you mean openjdk as provided in
fedora ? or do you mean direct from sun.com ?
The question seems now to be if
a) java-1.5.0-gcj performance has changed since F-8
b) or you had another e.g. icedtea java installed on F-8 and the comparisons
were between two different jres
I installed Sun's JRE, directly from sun.com. I'll try with icedtea tomorrow.
As for the a,b options, I can't say for sure. I did play with icedtea for a
while, but I never changed the java settings in the openoffice manually, and I
am pretty sure that I removed icedtea afterwards. Unfortunately, I can't be
completely sure, since I upgraded my laptop to F-9 and all the logs are lost.
OOo autodetects java on first start and then sticks with that one unless it
disappears in whch case it re-autodetects it and sticks with that version unless
it disappears. It prefers ones by the "sun" vendor over others at autodetect
time. So if e.g. icedtea/openjdk and gcj are installed and java is used in OOo
for the first time it will use the sun one. But if gcj is the only one, then it
sticks with that.
So if icedtea was not installed on F-8 originally then OOo base was used for the
first time then it would have selected gcj and remained at that even after
icedtea was installed. But would have used icedtea if it was available and base
had not been used before.
So its hard to tell what java your OOo was using on F-8, but the odds are that
it was using gcj. I'm loathe to just lazily push this bug to gcj, but I don't
think that there is anything about OOo that triggers this apparent showdown. I
believe that either gcj has slowed down, or gcj was just as slow in F-8 and OOo
was using a different jre.
I see that OOo uses at least bsh, xalan and xerces (from requires). Is there a
way to figure out if gcj is using .so or .jar for particular invocation? This
would certainly cause huge performance impact. Last time I looked, gcj didn't
contain JIT. Granted it was a few years ago, but since the strategy was to do
native compilations in .so, JIT wasn't needed, and I wouldn't expect it to have
I tried some tests comparing F8 java-1.7.0-icedtea with F9 java-1.6.0-openjdk.
First testing with an applet benchmark on F8 and F9 live CDs failed as F8 live
CD has problems with the Firefox plugin for applets. Tests with P4 2.4GHz
machines and fedora hard-disk installs suggest that if anything, F9 openjdk may
be a little faster for the benchmark:
Subjective tests with a GUI Java application show a different story. JOSM, a
Java-based CAD application for mapping runs like a cow on F9.
The F8 GUI is snappy, with many frames per second screen updates. On F9, the
same jar runs horribly slowly- subjectively an order of magnitude slower.
Unfortunately, I can't find a standalone non-applet benchmark mixing GUI and
general calculation to give qualitative measures on F8 and F9 live CD to aid
Could the OOo database be posted on-line and the import timed on a F8 and F9
live CDs to give some repeatable measures?
Unfortunately, the database I was using contains confidential data. However, you
may be able to use any sufficiently big spreadsheet, and copy it to a table
using clipboard. My sheet had 15 columns, most of them text with up to 100
characters in length, one integer and one decimal. Last version had 2500 rows.
Actual import step is something that can be visibly measured (15 seconds
compared to 8 minutes).
Should this bug be changed to NEED_INFO ? or can i move it to ASSIGNED
temproarily and is the component Java correct?
Someone needs to debug hsqldb backend with gcj, to find the reason for the
slowdown. My guess is that the problem lies in some of the used java packages
that are interpreted from JARs instead of dynamically linked from SOs (which
would explain >30x slowdown). I checked all installed java packages, and they do
seem to contain an so for every jar installed, which leads me to believe that
the problem is a bit more complicated than I initially thought.
The workaround is available, just use java with JIT - e.g. from openjdk or sun.
However, default fedora installation brings only gcj, which means that most of
the users will be affected.
I ll change the Status to ASSIGNED as of now.
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