Bug 471781 - Sound broken by system update on Nov. 15.
Sound broken by system update on Nov. 15.
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: kernel (Show other bugs)
x86_64 Linux
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Assigned To: Jaroslav Kysela
Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Reported: 2008-11-16 02:43 EST by Neil Forrester
Modified: 2009-07-14 10:13 EDT (History)
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Description Neil Forrester 2008-11-16 02:43:17 EST
Description of problem:
The automatic update system updated some things including the kernel (to on November 15, and now the sound doesn't work on my machine. Specifically, whenever I try to play anything in the normal way, it makes seemingly random clicking noises. I can write directly to /dev/audio and get the expected results, but any normal program I've tried makes just makes clicking noises. I have a Dell Precision M4300 laptop. lspci describes my sound card like this:

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)

Some things I've already tried:
1. Booting with the previous kernel version. It doesn't work either any more, but instead of clicking noises, I get silence.
2. Headphones. The clicking noises come through them instead of the speakers.
3. Adding various lines to modprobe.conf, of the form "options snd-hda-intel" followed by various combinations of "model=dell", "model=dell-3stack", "model=dell-m43", "position_fix=1", and "position_fix=2". None of that changed anything, and I changed modprobe.conf back to it's original state, which was empty.

Nothing else that obviously related to sound was updated during the update that broke it, besides some packages associated with totem. However, I find it unlikely that totem would have broken the whole sound system.

How reproducible:
Whenever I try to make a noise by any method other than writing directly to /dev/audio.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Fully update a computer like mine.
2. Try to play a sound without directly writing to /dev/audio.
3. Turn the volume all the way up.
4. Listen to the clicking (it may be faint, but not always).
Actual results:
Apparently random clicks.

Expected results:
Normal noise coming through the speakers.

Additional info:
That's about it.
Comment 1 Steven Schveighoffer 2009-05-27 16:14:39 EDT
I have the same issue, sound worked great when I first installed, but sometime in the past (I thought it was after november, but I could be wrong), sound stopped working, and I get clicks whenever I want to play sound or a video with sound.

My sound device is listed below:

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)

I did not notice which kernel broke it, but it was at least earlier than, because that was the earliest kernel that was left on my system, and I don't know how to download older kernels than that.

I have not tried the /dev/audio directly, not sure how to do that.
Comment 2 Jaroslav Kysela 2009-05-28 09:53:51 EDT
Does 'aplay <some_wav_file>' work on your systems?
Comment 3 Steven Schveighoffer 2009-05-28 19:48:11 EDT
(In reply to comment #2)
> Does 'aplay <some_wav_file>' work on your systems?  

No, same clicking sound heard.
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Comment 5 Steven Schveighoffer 2009-06-10 13:02:04 EDT
Oh, didn't realize this was a F9 bug, I was having the issue with F10.

However, I just upgraded to F11 and the audio works again!  So now, I'll keep better track of whether the audio stops working after an upgrade...  Removing me from CC.
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