Bug 477832 - Interface not brought up properly if no link detected
Interface not brought up properly if no link detected
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: NetworkManager (Show other bugs)
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Assigned To: Dan Williams
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Reported: 2008-12-23 20:04 EST by Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
Modified: 2013-02-13 21:38 EST (History)
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Description Dennis Jacobfeuerborn 2008-12-23 20:04:41 EST
I'm running eth0 using dhcp which works fine but I've configured a static IP for eth1 and NM doesn't bring up the interface until it actually has a link.

This is the config:
# nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet

This is what the log has to say about eth1 during bootup:
Dec 24 01:45:20 nexus NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): device state change: 1 -> 2
Dec 24 01:45:20 nexus NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): bringing up device.
Dec 24 01:45:20 nexus NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): preparing device.
Dec 24 01:45:20 nexus NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): deactivating device (reason: 2).
Dec 24 01:45:20 nexus NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): carrier now ON (device state 2)
Dec 24 01:45:20 nexus NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): device state change: 2 -> 3
Dec 24 01:45:20 nexus NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): carrier now OFF (device state 3)
Dec 24 01:45:20 nexus NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): device state change: 3 -> 2
Dec 24 01:45:20 nexus NetworkManager: <info>  (eth1): deactivating device (reason: 40).

After that the interface eth1 has no IP address which makes the dhcpd startup fail that I configured to serve IPs to machines connected to that interface.
Once I connect a machine NM reports a link and the IP gets set correctly even after disconnecting the interface.

The correct behavior would be to just bring the interface up properly independent of the link status.
Comment 1 Dan Williams 2009-02-05 13:59:12 EST
Bringing the interface up is pointless until it has a link, because no traffic can pass through it until there is a link.  NetworkManager will not bring up interfaces that cannot be used.  When you plug a cable in, the interface will be brought up and configured with whatever method you've selected, either DHCP or static IP.
Comment 2 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn 2009-02-05 14:19:23 EST
It's certainly not pointless and a substantial change of behavior of the networking subsystem.

If the interface isn't brought up daemons cannot bind to that address like they could with /etc/init.d/network. That's how I discovered the problem in the first place. Also I don't think it should be optional for NetworkManager to apply my configuration. When I explicitly specify that interface should get an IP than it's pretty rude of NM to simply ignore that.
Comment 3 Dan Williams 2009-02-13 07:09:45 EST
NM will apply that configure when the device can actually be used; you can't do anything with that interface when there's no cable plugged in.  No traffic can flow in or out of that interface when no cable is plugged in.

Services that can't handle network situations changing underneath them need to either (a) be fixed to notice address changes internally like NTP, Avahi, and countless others do already, or (b) be restarted using a dispatcher script when the interface/address they care about gets assigned to an interface.

In some simpler cases you can bind the service to and the problem won't happen.

But this isn't a NetworkManager problem; it's something that's going to get pushed off onto the daemons themselves, or a service like Upstart that automatically starts/stops services when the resources the service requires becomes available.

A dispatcher script gets put into /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d, should be owned by root, be not writable by anyone but root, and gets two arguments: the interface and an action.  The action can be "up" or "down" or a few other things.  Thus, when an interface comes "up", you can check the IP address of that interface, and if it's the one the service cares about, run "/sbin/service apache restart" for example.  When the interface goes "down", you can "/sbin/service apache stop".
Comment 4 Axel Thimm 2011-12-31 06:59:46 EST
Hi all and happy upcoming New Year,

I, too, have been hitting this quite often since switching to NM. While I understand that daemons managing this would be ideal, we are far from this scenario and there are just too many daemons/services affected by this (ATM I'm coping with cobbler on a laptop).

Wouldn't an option to allow ignoring link state make everyone happy? This would allow the rest of the infrastructure to catch up while users would not have to revert to non-NM ways of setting up the network.

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