Created attachment 337800 [details] Patch to add the missing definition Description of problem: If you configure a keyboard using the xkb-extended evdev driver (see bug 493623) then the definition for the "extra" key on a pc105 keyboard is missing. This is the <LSGT> that sits between the "Z" and the left-shift key on the bottom row of the keyboard. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): 0.8-7 How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. Obtain a pc105 keyboard that can be used with the evdev driver 2. Configure the X server to use the evdev driver -- eg as for the Xen virtual keyboard pointer (see bug 493623) 3. Attempt to use the <LSGT> key, the one between the "Z" and the left shift key. Actual results: Nothing happens Expected results: Depending on the keyboard layout you should see "<" ">" from this key or, for example, with a UK keyboard you get "\" and "|". Additional info: This same patch appears in later versions of Fedora.
Related bugs: bug 493618, bug 493623, bug 493627, bug 493630, bug 493634 and bug 493642
The bug as reported is about the difficulties to manually configure X in a certain way, to get proper pointer tracking. It is certainly valid. However, the real problem users care about is that pointer tracking works very poorly (mouse hits invisible wall). Upstram, we solved the problem by fixing numerous issues in various places to make it work out of the box, from Fedora 11 on. The patches proposed by the reporter solve the problem by making manual configuration work. They are unrelated to the upstream solution. Like the upstream solution, they're fairly invasive: they touch the kernel and several user space packages. This is a significant risk. Moreover, splitting the device is an ABI change. The question is whether there are benefits to justify that. We already put much less invasive changes into 5.4 to improve pointer tracking (bug 492866). They fix the "mouse hits invisible wall" problem. They still require a pointer grab, which virt-viewer makes relatively painless. So, the benefit of the proposed patches over what we've got already is to enable manual configuration so that the mouse grab can be avoided. While that's certainly nice, it doesn't justify the risk, in my opinion. If you disagree, please reopen the bug. Some technical background: There are 3 pieces in the stack: VNC client, QEMU VNC server and the guest's X. The old, misbehaving setup has VNC client sending absolute coordinates, which the VNC server sends through xenkbd to X. X in RHEL-5 doesn't have any auto-configuration of input devices, so it just opens /dev/input/mice, and thus the guest kernel converts from absolute to relative. Because the VNC client has no knowledge of this conversion, you get into situation where you hit an invisible wall in the client when it thinks it has got to the virtual desktop boundary. Now, if you had absolute coordinates being passed and used all the way to X then it would trivially work, but this requires X configuration. Recent X's do that automatically. RHEL-5's X simply isn't capable of that. The patches proposed by the reporter add manual configuration steps across a wide range of RPMs. The fix we did for RHEL-5.4 is to make xenkbd *not* use absolute coordinates, so the VNC server now sends relative coordinates. This removes the broken absolute -> relative conversion in the guest kernel. On its own this isn't sufficient, because you then get broken absolute to relative conversion in the VNC server instead. So we also added the VNC relative mouse extension to QEMU and GTK-VNC. Now the VNC client is in charge of doing the absolute -> relative conversion. This is good, as this is the only point in the stack capable of doing the conversion correctly, to avoid hitting an invisible wall. The only restriction is that you must grab the host mouse pointer and hide it, so you only see the guest drawn pointer.
By the way, RHEL-6 pointer tracking will be fine out of the box using absolute coordinates, just like upstream.