Bug 494273 - Disable "Fn by default" behavior
Summary: Disable "Fn by default" behavior
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Status: CLOSED EOL
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: kbd
Version: 29
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
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Assignee: westybsa
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TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2009-04-06 06:44 UTC by Jeremy Huddleston
Modified: 2019-11-27 19:21 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2019-11-27 19:21:17 UTC
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Description Jeremy Huddleston 2009-04-06 06:44:09 UTC
Description of problem:

In rawhide, hit ctrl-alt-f2 to switch to a terminal console from X11.  Alt-F# does not work to switch back to X11 or to switch to other vts

Comment 1 Jeremy Huddleston 2009-04-07 17:27:24 UTC
So it turns out this is because the keyboard layout doesn't actually send F2 when I press F2 (go figure).  This is wrong, IMO.  Yes, Apple sets that default, but they also make it very easy to disable.  Please provide a way to easily intuitively modify this behavior, so I don't need to press Fn every time I want to use a function key.  I recall it being the expected behavior on F10.

Comment 2 Jeremy Huddleston 2009-04-07 17:35:27 UTC
And yes, I know I can do this via:
options hid_apple fnmode=2

or

echo 2 > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode 

but most users should expect a GUI option for this in their keyboard preferences.

Comment 3 Bug Zapper 2009-06-09 13:19:43 UTC
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 11 development cycle.
Changing version to '11'.

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Comment 4 Vitezslav Crhonek 2010-01-26 15:55:22 UTC
If I understand it correctly, the issue should be assigned to the kernel component and it's related to Apple keyboards default settings (similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201711 Ubuntu bug).

Comment 5 Jeremy Huddleston 2010-01-26 17:16:15 UTC
This bug is about providing a GUI option in the keyboard control panel to toggle this behavior.  This is not a kernel bug.

Comment 6 westybsa 2010-09-02 06:41:21 UTC
I need more specifics of your hardware to help your problem. The information that I am looking for includes the following:

1. Model Name
2. Model Identifier or Month and year of production
3. Processor Name and Speed
4. Amount of RAM

This information will help me find out if their is already a unofficial fix out their or if this is a issue we need to put on the "Future Features" list. It seems like it is a issue across linux platforms including unbuntu.

Please feel free to post or email me at westybsa and reference bug #494273.



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Comment 7 westybsa 2010-09-02 06:47:28 UTC

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Comment 8 westybsa 2010-09-02 06:47:59 UTC

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Comment 9 westybsa 2010-09-02 06:48:24 UTC

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Comment 10 westybsa 2010-09-02 06:53:25 UTC

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Comment 11 westybsa 2010-09-02 06:55:49 UTC
Sorry for the multiple blank posts, I am just getting use to being a Fedora Bugzapper.



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Comment 12 Jeremy Huddleston 2010-09-02 07:21:06 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> I need more specifics of your hardware to help your problem. The information
> that I am looking for includes the following:
> 
> 1. Model Name

Irrelevant

> 2. Model Identifier or Month and year of production

Irrelevant

> 3. Processor Name and Speed

Irrelevant

> 4. Amount of RAM

Irrelevant

 
...

All that is needed here is a GUI to control:
/sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode

Comment 13 westybsa 2010-09-05 05:39:04 UTC
Here are the two options at this point in time, either we can work together to confirm this bug occurs on all macs or we can reassign this bug as a future feature and close the open bug status. Closing the open bug status makes bugzilla run more efficiently and lets the programmers/developers know code needs to be changed in order to make fedora better.

Comment 14 Jeremy Huddleston 2010-09-05 06:33:15 UTC
It does occur on all macs.

Comment 15 westybsa 2010-09-05 23:18:27 UTC
Okay since it does occur on all macs, this is what needs to happen. My first question to you is whether or not you tried to replicate this issue in the newest stable release of Fedora which is Fedora 13. After you confirm that it is happening in Fedora 13, the next step is put this ticket into the future featuires category.

Comment 16 Jeremy Huddleston 2010-09-06 03:54:11 UTC
This was not addressed in F13

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Comment 19 Jeremy Huddleston 2012-08-17 01:31:15 UTC
Reopening.  This issue has not been addressed.

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Comment 23 Jeremy Huddleston 2015-06-30 16:16:17 UTC
There is still no GUI option to control this option.  It is only controllable by editing config files.

Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard

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Comment 25 Jeremy Huddleston 2016-11-25 05:11:41 UTC
Still applies...

Comment 26 Fedora End Of Life 2017-02-28 09:28:30 UTC
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 26 development cycle.
Changing version to '26'.

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Comment 28 Jan Kurik 2018-08-14 10:58:41 UTC
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 29 development cycle.
Changing version to '29'.

Comment 29 Ben Cotton 2019-10-31 20:45:38 UTC
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Comment 30 Ben Cotton 2019-11-27 19:21:17 UTC
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