Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 495688
KMS:RV530:Radeon X1650 QM dual display - Screen occasionally "flickers"
Last modified: 2010-12-05 01:56:40 EST
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My card is a Saphire Radeon X1650PRO with 2 DVI outputs. I have 2 LCD
displays connected via DVI-I -- 1280x1024 and 1680x1050. Every so often
(5 minutes?) I will see a brief "flicker" on one of the screens. It's
not easy to describe, but it almost appears that the screen is momentarily
Note that the problem occurs on both screens, but not at the same time.
The effect is similar to a problem that I had with the radeonhd driver
on Fedora 8. (But I have no reason to believe that the cause is
necessarily the same.) In that case, I was able to work around the
problem by using radeonhd's "AtomBIOS" "pll=on" option. There's more
information about radeonhd on this hardware at:
Right now, radeonhd (with "AtomBIOS" "pll=on") gives me a rock-solid
2D display on this hardware.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Purchase exactly the same hardware. ;-)
2. Use attached xorg.conf.ati.
3. Try to get some work done.
No flickers, like radeonhd.
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1650 Pro (rev 9e) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: PC Partner Limited Device 0840
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
Region 0: Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Region 2: Memory at feaf0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Region 4: I/O ports at d000 [size=256]
Expansion ROM at feac0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities:  Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Capabilities:  Express (v1) Endpoint, MSI 00
DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <4us, L1 unlimited
ExtTag+ AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE- FLReset-
DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1, Latency L0 <64ns, L1 <1us
ClockPM- Suprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- Retrain- CommClk+
ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
Capabilities:  Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Count=1/1 Enable-
Address: 0000000000000000 Data: 0000
Kernel modules: radeon
Created attachment 339479 [details]
Created attachment 339480 [details]
Created attachment 339481 [details]
rhd_dump gives me exactly the same output with the radeon driver as it
does with radeonhd (Option "AtomBIOS" "pll=on").
Could you also boot with drm.debug=1 and dump dmesg as well ?
Please add it here as uncompressed text/plain attachment like the other logs.
Thanks in advance
Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team
Created attachment 339599 [details]
dmesg output with drm.debug=1
It looks like the output has overrun the kernel ringbuffer. Is there
a boot parameter to increase its size?
Created attachment 339603 [details]
dmesg output with drm.debug=1
I found the log_bug_len kernel parameter. Here is a complete dmesg log,
through booting to runlevel 5 and logging in to KDE.
There is nothing to triage here.
Switching to ASSIGNED so that developers have responsibility to do whatever they want to do with it.
The patch in http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22229 seems to fix
this problem. The comments in that bug indicate that the same issue probably
exists with kernel modesetting.
Looks like I was premature in saying that the RS690 PLL patch fixed the
flickers. :-( They're still present, possibly less frequent than before.
Also, this is still present in F11 (without the patch).
Since this bugzilla report was filed, there have been several major updates in various components of the Xorg system, which may have resolved this issue. Users who have experienced this problem are encouraged to upgrade their system to the latest version of their packages. For packages from updates-testing repository you can use command
yum upgrade --enablerepo='*-updates-testing'
Alternatively, you can also try to test whether this bug is reproducible with the upcoming Fedora 12 distribution by downloading LiveMedia of F12 Beta available at http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ . By using that you get all the latest packages without need to install anything on your computer. For more information on using LiveMedia take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD .
Please, if you experience this problem on the up-to-date system, let us now in the comment for this bug, or whether the upgraded system works for you.
If you won't be able to reply in one month, I will have to close this bug as INSUFFICIENT_DATA. Thank you.
[This is a bulk message for all open Fedora Rawhide Xorg-related bugs. I'm adding myself to the CC list for each bug, so I'll see any comments you make after this and do my best to make sure every issue gets proper attention.]
I have just had the opportunity to install Fedora 12 on this system. The
bug is still present. :-(
Can you try a test kernel it should be finished building in a couple of hrs.
it'll land in
I've done x86_64 build.
just kms and -ati and see if it helps the flashing
if not I have another build to try next day.
(In reply to comment #12)
> Can you try a test kernel it should be finished building in a couple of hrs.
I wiill give it a try tomorrow (Friday).
One thing to note, the flickers are still there, but they seem to be very
infrequent now -- so much so that I've actually switched to using radeon,
rather than radeonhd. (What can I say, I'm a sucker for GLSnake.)
OK, I installed kernel-220.127.116.11-161.dave1.fc12.x86_64 on Friday. I didn't
have a chance to use the system much until Sunday, but it did seem that
there might be fewer "flickers". (I did definitely see one or two over the
course of Sunday and Monday.)
yum installed kernel-18.104.22.168-162.fc12.x86_64 sometime on Sunday. After
running with it for a while, I've gone back to the test kernel.
Net is that while the test kernel doesn't seem to have removed the flickers
100%, it so far seems to have made things better.
Something else which may be a clue as to what's going on ... I've noticed
that the "flicker" looks like a distorted, expanded text display. The
closest thing I can compare it to is one of the effects that I used to see
when switching from a text VT to a graphical VT on a CRT.
Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team
[This triage is part of collective effort done by students of University of
Rijeka Department of Informatics.]
upgrade same Fedora 12 to Fedora 13 and problem still exist.
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