Bug 510885 - Proper fonts not being downloaded for aplus-fsf package
Proper fonts not being downloaded for aplus-fsf package
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: aplus-fsf (Show other bugs)
i386 Linux
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Assigned To: Jochen Schmitt
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Reported: 2009-07-11 22:24 EDT by Michael Rice
Modified: 2010-06-28 09:35 EDT (History)
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Two posts from Fedora Forum. Download different for two different users (3.36 KB, text/plain)
2009-07-11 22:24 EDT, Michael Rice
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Modified A+-Mode for XEmacs (40.31 KB, text/plain)
2009-07-21 11:30 EDT, Jochen Schmitt
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Description Michael Rice 2009-07-11 22:24:53 EDT
Created attachment 351369 [details]
Two posts from Fedora Forum. Download different for two different users

Description of problem: 
Proper APL fonts not being downloaded with package (see attachment).

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
aplus-fsf-4.22.4-15.fc11 (i586)

How reproducible:
See attachment

Steps to Reproduce: See attachment
Actual results:
See attachment

Expected results:
See attachment

Additional info:
Comment 1 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-12 15:23:09 EDT
I asume, you ask, why aplus-fsf show different behaviour on installing relating of the font packages.

The issue is, that I have tow diffent font packages (X11 and Truetype) in the past. After the new font policy, I have decided to provide only the Truetyp font package.

So I may suggest that you dry to install the X11 font package and install aplus-fsf-KAPL-fonts. If you have any isue after this steps, please feel free to contact me again.
Comment 2 Michael Rice 2009-07-12 17:16:43 EDT
What fonts should I install?

I've already installed:
  TrueType fonts for the Advanced APL Interpreter
  aplus-fsf-KAPL-fonts-4.22.2-15.fc11 (noarch)

It doesn't work.

Listed below are the X11 fonts that are already installed and uninstalled (those preceded by an asterisk) according to my software installer.

Are the APL fonts included in one of these packages? Which one? Why would fonts necessary to use the package *not* be included in the package, or at least downloaded along with the package.



*  A set of 100dpi resolution fonts for the X Window System
   xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

   A set of 75dpi resolution fonts for the X Window System
   xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

*  A set of 100dpi ISO-8859-1 fonts for X
   xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

   ISO8859-14-100dpi fonts
   xorg-x11-fonts-ISO-8859-14-100dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

   ISO8859-14-75dpi fonts
   xorg-x11-fonts-ISO-8859-14-75dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

*  ISO8859-15-100dpi fonts
   xorg-x11-fonts-ISO-8859-15-100dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

   ISO8859-15-75dpi fonts
   xorg-x11-fonts-ISO-8859-15-75dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

*  A set of 75dpi ISO-8859-1 fonts for X
   xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

   ISO8859-9-100dpi fonts
   xorg.x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

   ISO8859-9-75dpi fonts
   xorg.x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

*  misc bitmap fonts for the X Window System
   xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)

*  Type1 fonts provided by the X Window System
   xorg-x11-fonts-Type1-7.2-8.fc11 (noarch)
Comment 3 Michael Rice 2009-07-12 18:07:45 EDT
Oops, error in last post. *Installed* fonts are preceded by asterisk.


Comment 4 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-14 11:26:08 EDT
(In reply to comment #2)
> What fonts should I install?
> I've already installed:
>   TrueType fonts for the Advanced APL Interpreter
>   aplus-fsf-KAPL-fonts-4.22.2-15.fc11 (noarch)
> It doesn't work.

That should be the right package.

It may be nice, if you can look into the control-center to check, that the
Font KAPL was installed properly for X11.

Best Regards:

Jochen Schmitt
Comment 5 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-14 11:56:55 EDT
Can you try out anything like

xterm -fa 'KAPL'
Comment 6 Michael Rice 2009-07-14 12:50:31 EDT
"control center"??? What's that? And how do I "look into" it?

I've already tried:

xterm -fa 'KAPL'

It gives me the italic APL font, but none of the APL special characters are accessible.

You needn't take my word for it, here's a quote from STEVEA re my OP on Fedora Forum:
 "Hmm, you may want to file a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com. You should be getting more fonts than just the KAPL.ttf font, and that font doesn't even work in xterm."

Comment 7 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-14 13:46:29 EDT
OK, I have investigate some examination.

You may fix you issue, if you are doing the following steps:

1.) cp /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/Xterm-apl /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/XTerm

2.) Start xterm -fa 'KAPL'

Best Regards:

Jochen Schmitt
Comment 8 Michael Rice 2009-07-14 14:46:57 EDT
I don't know if this is pertinent, but I'm not networked. Perhaps there's a different command for a stand-alone system?


[michael@localhost ~]$ cp /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/Xterm-apl /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/XTerm
cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/X11/app-defaults/Xterm-apl': No such file or directory
[michael@localhost ~]$ su
[root@localhost michael]# cp /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/Xterm-apl /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/XTerm
cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/X11/app-defaults/Xterm-apl': No such file or directory
[root@localhost michael]#
Comment 9 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-14 15:41:33 EDT
Perhaps you have accidently remove the file XTerm-apl. This file you may find in the aplus-fsf package.
Comment 10 Michael Rice 2009-07-14 17:30:42 EDT
I haven't tried this yet, but here's a post from Fedora Forum. Apparently you had a typo in your earlier post.


Maybe you can figure out why the keyboard doesn't produce the APL special characters according to the A+ Documentation (in the same post).

More later.

Comment 11 Michael Rice 2009-07-14 21:16:36 EDT
None of my lowercase APL special characters are getting printed when I press the Alt-<key>. However the characters *are* being properly passed to the evaluator and return the correct answers.


A<-1 ;(<- should be APL assignment arrow Alt+[ )
A ;This is what's seen when it's keyed in
A ;Just typing in A will evaluate A, returning its value
A<-1 2 ;give A a different value, a vector
1 2
6/2 ;(/ (slash) should be APL special divide symbol Alt+= )
6 ;This is what's seen when keyed in
3 ;returns the correct answer
3*2 ;(* should be APL special multiply symbol Alt+-
3 2 ;This is what's seen when keyed in
6 ;returns correct answer
i5 ;the i should be the APL special IOTA character Alt-i (index generator)
  ;This is what's seen when keyed in, i.e., nada
0 1 2 3 4 ;however, correct answer is printed

Why aren't these APL lower-case characters getting printed when keyed in?

Comment 12 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-16 11:13:53 EDT
OK I assume, that you don't use the LANG="C" as default. So yuu have check to do the following steps:

1.) Make sure, that you have copy the /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-apl file to /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/XTerm

2.) After that you can try to start

export LANG="C"; xterm -fa 'KAPL'
Comment 13 Michael Rice 2009-07-16 13:40:44 EDT
That's seems to fix the problem with the APL special character set in XTERM. Do you have any idea how to make the BACKSPACE key work properly?

Also, the A+/XEmacs package doesn't seem to work either. Could you have a look at getting that operational?


Comment 14 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-21 11:30:59 EDT
Created attachment 354502 [details]
Modified A+-Mode for XEmacs

I have tanke further investigation and find out, that there is an issue with xemacs.

So I have create a modified A+-Mode which I have attached to this ticket.

It may be nice, if you can copy this file to /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp and let me know about your success with it.

If the file may work for you, I may create a new aplus-fsf package which fixed the issue reported in this bug.
Comment 15 Michael Rice 2009-07-21 12:47:31 EDT
I copied a.el to /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp

Then what?

Comment 16 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-21 13:33:46 EDT
Then you make start xemacs with a apl file to look, that the A+ Mode should work.
Comment 17 Michael Rice 2009-07-21 15:15:03 EDT
Following your previous instructions, I don't get anything different than what I've been getting when I run XEmacs.

However, if I put your a.el file in


rather than


replacing the one already there, XEmac 

1) opens the (.apl) file name I gave it 
2) A+ menus (A+ and A+Options) appear in the menu bar

However, no APL character set is activated.

If my above actions are correct so far, how do I proceed?

Comment 18 Michael Rice 2009-07-21 21:37:32 EDT
According to the A+ documentation (Section 5. The Emacs/A+ Interactive Environment)


if I start XEmacs and, when it opens, press the F4 
function key the Emacs window should split into two 
buffers. The top buffer is now the scratch buffer, 
while the bottom one is an A+ session with the buffer
title "*a*"

This part now works as documented, except for the
absence of the APL special characters.

This is what my "*a*" buffer looks like after I type 
in a couple of expressions:


/usr/bin/a+: line 3: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (POXIS): No such file or directory
/usr/bin/a+: line 3: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (POXIS)
     Copyright (c) 1990-2008 Morgan Stanley.  All rights reserved.
     This version is Release 4.22
     sh: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (POXIS)
Tue Jul 21 21:03:30 EDT 2009 on localhost.localdomain

So, we are accessing the APL interpreter, but have no APL special characters.

Comment 19 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-22 11:18:39 EDT
OK. Please make the following checks.

1.) Exist the file

/usr/share/fonts/aplus-fsf/fonts/KAPL.TTF ?

2.) If so, please try to execuate

fc-cache /usr/share/fonts/aplus-fsf

After this steps. please check, that the Font will be listed in the Fonts applet of the system settings
Comment 20 Michael Rice 2009-07-22 13:05:42 EDT
[michael@localhost ~]$ cd /usr/share/fonts/aplus-fsf
[michael@localhost aplus-fsf]$ ls
fonts.dir  fonts.scale  KAPL.TTF
[michael@localhost aplus-fsf]$

System settings?

System/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts shows that the KAPL font is there.

Comment 21 Michael Rice 2009-07-30 00:23:48 EDT
Making any progress?

Comment 22 Jochen Schmitt 2009-07-30 13:33:03 EDT
I have created aplus-fsf-4.22.4-19 for rawhide. Thsi package should fixed most of the issues reported in this bug.

I have create a xterm-apl command which allows you to start a xterm session with the APL font and key mapping as the default.

Unfortunately I have recorgnise some terminal related issues with the arrow keys when running the A+ interpreter in a xterm.
Comment 23 Michael Rice 2009-09-02 11:02:07 EDT
Status report?

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Comment 25 Michael Rice 2010-04-27 12:02:09 EDT
As you can see, my last comment was a request for a status report. Since I never heard back I moved on to other things, so it won't break my heart if you close this out as WONTFIX.

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