Created attachment 364235 [details] Screenshot for s-c-date and gnome-clock Description of problem: After installation and setting Default Timezone Kolkata, Clock is showing Default Timezone (added by Default) Boston (after Fresh installation). Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): gnome-panel-2.28.0-2.fc12.x86_64 system-config-date-1.9.52-1.fc12.noarch libgweather-2.28.0-1.fc12.x86_64 How reproducible: Everytime Steps to Reproduce: 1. fresh install with Hindi (hi_IN) locale 2. login with Hindi 3. Click on clock/Task Top-Right Side Actual results: Boston is added by Default Expected results: Either should be default for locale or s-c-date's Zone Additional info: Screenshot
French (fr_FR) also showing Boston only Time zone in Clock
This is an intentional change; we think having some location selected is better than none at all; it makes the location support more understandable. Ideally, we will have a) geolocation support to automatically detect your location and b) firstboot support to select the default location.
ok, that is good idea, libgweather providing default region for each locale (for weather information),
I find the part of comment #2 after "Ideally" good. I disagree with the first part, though. Although I see the need of hinting the user about location support, I think that arbitrarily picking a location implies favoring a given city or country over all others and this may make some users feel discriminated. Politics may come at play here. Why a city on the East Coast and not on the West Coast? Why not a city in another country or continent? So while the changes in comment #2 are being implemented, there should be no default location selected without any input from the user. If I remember correctly, there was no hinting about location support previous versions of Fedora anyway, so there is no regression in not providing any in Fedora 12.
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 12 development cycle. Changing version to '12'. More information and reason for this action is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping
Why does this need to be during firstboot? Fedora 12 asked for my timezone/location when I installed it by showing a big map and getting me to click on it. Why doesn't it use that? It logged it in my anaconda-ks.cfg file, and assumably stored that information someplace. Also, I agree with Davide that having no default location is better than choosing one arbitrarily.
I agree with Kieran. I already selected Chicago from the map, so start there if you need a default. What is the point of me choosing if it will be ignored? Make the weather show in Chicago. At least that is in the same time zone. Taking it a step further- I do not know if there is an equivalent of a zip code abroad (I admit this is probably something I should not be ignorant of) but maybe ask for that or give me a list of "weather locations" in the region of the "Chicago" selection I made earlier while doing the install. Why is it giving me Chicago option just to select Boston on it's own? I really want my weather the be in St. Louis, MO (which is Chesterfield, MO in the weather list) in the first place.
I agree with Dave seems better UX to default to the selected system timezone location.
well part of the problem, I think, is the clock wants the user's actual location not timezone. We only get timezone during install, so e.g., if a user lives in Boston they would pick New York as a timezone. That means if we used that information we would still end up with the wrong location out of the box in the clock. I think ideally anaconda would let the user pick location not just timezone and then we could make gnome-panel (or the shell in gnome 3) pick that up by default
Any target dates for implementation?
I can't reproduce the original report with F15. So proposing to close this... Anyway I guess the RFE is a gnome issue not anaconda. Probably better to open a bug for that, upstream even.