Bug 558851 - init/rc messages hidden during startup
Summary: init/rc messages hidden during startup
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Status: CLOSED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: plymouth
Version: 14
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
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Assignee: Ray Strode [halfline]
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2010-01-26 15:16 UTC by Dirk Hoffmann
Modified: 2012-08-16 22:17 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2012-08-16 22:17:45 UTC
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Description Dirk Hoffmann 2010-01-26 15:16:49 UTC
Description of problem:
Previous versions of Fecora (at least until 9) switched from the graphics (X client) screen to tty1 during bootup and shutdown or mirrored those messages to the graphics screen. That was a nice feedback and in particular useful in the following case:

In case of a necessary fsck(1) (e.g. after hard reset), the graphics logo (light blue circle with "nose", being filled diagonally with white) seems to be stuck almost at the end of the process, whereas the fsck progress bar is displayed on tty1. This fsck can take several minutes, and there is a significant risk that the unadvertent user considers the system "stuck", makes another hard reset and runs into an infinite loop of reboots. At least it is very annoying to see the system take several minutes for a bootup that usually takes not more than two minutes, without knowing the reason.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
initscripts-9.02.1-1.i686
Linux mar** 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Jan 18 20:06:44 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

How reproducible:
Every reboot/bootup

Steps to Reproduce:
1.reboot
  
Actual results:
Messages hidden behind graphical screen without significance.

Expected results:
Show initrd messages during bootup (and also during shutdown) process

Additional info:

Comment 1 iarly selbir 2010-01-26 17:12:39 UTC
If you remove both "quiet" and "rhgb" arguments from grub ( /boot/grub/menu.lst ), you'll be able to see any messages shown, previously appearing behind plymouth, anyway some change like this ( timeout before show startup messages ) is a plymouth change


Thanks for your report, I'll re-assign it for plymouth team


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Comment 2 Dirk Hoffmann 2010-01-26 18:04:57 UTC
Yes, you are right: A timeout for the graphical screen ("plymouth", right?) hiding the initrd messages is probably a good thing.

Even better would be that it can disappear immediately, in case of an unusual event, like rc script failed or fsck triggered.

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Comment 5 Dirk Hoffmann 2010-12-04 09:34:14 UTC
This bug is still present in fc13, probably also fc14, as no feedback had been given from plymouth debuggers.

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Comment 7 Dirk Hoffmann 2011-06-06 09:10:49 UTC
Yes, sorry. I forgot to confirm that the situation in F14 is unchanged.
This request for improvement is still valid. The "fsck" step is probably the longest single step during bootup, as it can take minutes in the extreme case. If a general solution cannot be found to interface the messages to plymoth (as before F10?), then it might be worth thinking about a special implementation of a "progress bar" for the "fsck" step, in order to give users an indication that the boot is not stuck.

Comment 8 Ray Strode [halfline] 2011-06-08 15:17:17 UTC
There are plans to add better fsck support to plymouth and systemd

Comment 9 Dirk Hoffmann 2011-06-08 16:41:22 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> There are plans to add better fsck support to plymouth and systemd

Hello, 

That is nice to hear. Can I expect it to be available for F15?

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