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Description of problem:
nautilus gives a segmentation fault allmost every time it starts. Gnome
is not working fine due to that. It works fine on a intel-II machine and
not working on a intel-III-machine
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Steps to Reproduce:
1.start up gnome or start nautilus
Actual Results: On startup of gnome : nothing, desktop icons are not
on startup out of a terminal : segmentation fault
Expected Results: a working system
system is running kernel 2.4.9-13
the same kind of problems, but less frequent, appeared on the 7.1-
distribution on the same machine
There has NOT been a upgrade, there was a fresh install of 7.2, followed
by a kernel upgrade.
It can be observed that the spash-screen takes a very long time to
The following output is made in a terminal window after the icon's did not
[root@tst1 root]# nautilus
[root@tst1 root]# nautilus-clean.sh
nautilus-clean: No stale processes found.
[root@tst1 root]# oaf-slay
[root@tst1 root]# killall -9 nautilus
nautilus: no process killed
[root@tst1 root]# gdb nautilus
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This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"...
(no debugging symbols found)...
Starting program: /usr/bin/nautilus
[New Thread 1024 (LWP 2479)]
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 1024 (LWP 2479)]
0x40278984 in __do_global_ctors_aux () from /usr/lib/libnautilus-
#0 0x40278984 in __do_global_ctors_aux ()
#1 0x4020fcb6 in _init () from /usr/lib/libnautilus-private.so.0
#2 0x4000da97 in _dl_init (main_map=0x40016c00, argc=1, argv=0xbffffa64,
env=0xbffffa6c) at dl-init.c:70
When you say "kernel upgrade" you mean to our errata right?
When you say the same happened in 7.1 what do you mean - Nautilus wasn't in 7.1?
On 7.1 the startup of gnome did not work allways. Sometimes the panel did
crash. Now the panel is allways starting, but the desktop isn't.
the upgrade of kernel is done via the kernel 2.4.9-13-prm on the redhat errata-
I have no preliminary idea what's going on here.
I have a similar problem on Dell Inspiron 8000. Generally I have a segmentation
fault of nautilus at startup. But I noted that often the nautilus binary is
changed (/usr/bin/nautilus) so the workaround is to reinstall the rpm.
The behaviour changes everytime, like if nautilus, when it can run, modifies
only a part of its files.
I do confirm that behaviour Sergio described... :-((
I run RH 7.2 on a Compaq Armada M700 (PIII) laptop. Nautilus 's binary
in /usr/bin/nautilus is corrupted after a user login. Consequently
the splash screen is lasting much longer than usually and Nautilus is
not launched (of course). The fallback solution is to copy again the
binary file from a temporary place, but each time you boot on, you have
to do that. Very bad...
AFAIK if the Nautilus binary is munged, this has to be a kernel or hardware
problem. Nautilus does not have write permission to /usr/bin/nautilus.
I have no idea however why the nautilus binary would get mangled but not other
files on your disk.
These problems sound very much like data corruption, yes: it could be corruption
in memory or on the ide bus.
rpm checksums all files in all packages using reliable md5 signatures, and you
can check any installed package for corruption with "rpm -V". I'd suggest that
the first step to diagnosing the corruptions here would be to run rpm -V on
various packages: "rpm -Va" will verify all packages on the system (but beware
that it will warn about changes which may be legitimate, including config file
changes, so dont' assume that absolutely all warnings are fatal.)
If rpm -Va produces different results from one run to the next, it's a pretty
good indicator that we're getting ide bus corruption. Booting with the
"ide=nodma" kernel option is often enough to work around problems with some ide
I am doing futher investigations, waiting the next file modification.
But I forgot to tell that when the file is changed also the date
[sergiop@gart bin]$ ls -l nautilus.*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 537868 Feb 4 23:08 nautilus.old
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 537868 Feb 6 08:50 nautilus.old2
[sergiop@gart bin]$ ls -l nautilus
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 537868 Sep 7 02:03 nautilus
The date are not random, reflect real use of the system.
For my knowledge, in this case who changes the file understand also
the filesystem; I suppose that it is not a low level driver.
If a file is being modified that way then it's not likely to be a kernel fault,
but an application. What is the difference between the different copies of the
files, and what does rpm -V show?
After two weeks of testing, the impression is that problem is with ide dma.
Premise: with past redhat installation (7.0) for a problem with X windows
I often had not clear umount, so generally I do not care about failed fsck,
and I understimate some other problems.
Generally the problem is with nautilus binary, sometimes it is corruped only
in memory; sometimes the date of the file changes, other times not.
Some files disappared, preferred directoris are in /usr/share.
[root@dylan root]# diff rpmV8-2.txt rpmV24-2.txt
> .M...UG. /usr/share/pixmaps/calculator-font.png
> .M.D.UG. /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-default-dlg.png
> .M.D.UG. /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-error.png
> SM?..UGT /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-info.png
> .M.D.UG. /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-question.png
> .M.D.UG. /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-warning.png
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/no.xpm
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/yes.xpm
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/gftp.png
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/dia-diagram.png
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/dia_gnome_icon.png
> ..5..... /usr/bin/panel
< .....U.. /dev/tty1
< .M....G. /dev/tty2
> .....U.. /dev/tty2
> missing /etc/X11/sysconfig/serviceconf.desktop
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/serviceconf.xpm
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-calendar-conduit.png
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-gnomecard.png
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/basic.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/basic.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/bindings.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/bindings.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/inline.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/inline.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/lap.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/lap.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/modules.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/modules.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/no-lang.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/no-lang.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/rep.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/rep.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/scheme.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/scheme.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/src.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/src.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/unscheme.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/unscheme.jlc
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/utils.jl
> missing /usr/share/rep/0.13.6/lisp/rep/vm/compiler/utils.jlc
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/kontrol-panel.png
> missing /etc/X11/sysconfig/hwbrowser.desktop
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/hwbrowser.png
> missing /etc/X11/sysconfig/redhat-config-users.desktop
> S.5....T c /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
> Unsatisfied dependencies for gcvs-1.0b2-1: /usr/bin/csh
> missing /etc/X11/sysconfig/dateconfig.desktop
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/dateconfig.png
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-ee.png
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/gqview.png
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-gtop.png
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/gedit-icon.png
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/gedit-logo.png
> missing /etc/X11/sysconfig/printconf-gui.desktop
> missing /usr/share/pixmaps/printer.png
If I do a fsck on a clear unmounted disk I hade often corruption.
In the past I had also an ext3 hole, I suppose that was a problem with
the ext3 driver, but now I think that could be the same problem.
With the kernel option ide=nodma I had no problem: no problem with nautilus,
all fsck are ok.
Red Hat 7.0 used the 2.2 kernel, which had much more limited support for modern
IDE chipsets in DMA mode. So, under 7.0, you may well have been running in
nodma mode anyway. There are updates available for 2.4.17 which have been
reported to fix some IDE DMA problems for certain chipsets, and our rawhide
kernels now contain those patches if you want to try them.
There have been no updates, though, from email@example.com. Dirk, do you
have "rpm -V" output for Nautilus available?
sorry for not reacting. I did leave the gnome-desktop to go to the kde-
desktop, as the first reaction ( 3/2 ) was cvoming late for me ( started 19/12)
and the system had to go in to production.
For that reason I changed to KDE, which is not having any problems on that same
I can't give you any prm -V output for that reason, sorry.
OK, thanks. Please reopen if you want to take this any further.