Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 57746
WindowMaker 0.70 doesn't play nicely with GNOME over virtual desktops
Last modified: 2007-04-18 12:38:48 EDT
Description of Problem:
"Desk Guide" applet no longer shows my 8 virtual desktops (or are they
Also, when I first did the upgrade and restarted wmaker to pick up the new
binary, clicking on the desk guide would no longer switch workspaces.
If I click on the little arrow at the side of the desk guide to bring up
the window list, all windows are listed as Desktop number 0.
Seems to be some (mis)communication problem between wmaker and GNOME.
Do you see something different?
If possible can you send me a screenshot? (gimp or xv does the trick)
Created attachment 41107 [details]
Image of what I get
Ah, no, I meant the GNOME Desk Guide Applet. If you enable the pop-up tasklist
(it seems to be off by default) then click on the little arrow next to it. I'm
using GNOME with wmaker as the window manager and a panel at the bottom. I've
had trouble with the combination before; if it gets any harder to use I'll just
use wmaker on its own.
Oddly enough, if I update the RPMs and restart wmaker, it seems to carry on
working OK, but fails next time I start X up from scratch.
I'll restart in a while and take a snapshot for you.
OK, this (next attachment) is a shot of the deskguide with the task list popped
up. There was an xterm on workspace 1 and an xterm + gimp on workspace 2 (i.e.
desktops 0 and 1), but all are listed as desktop 0. Also I have eight
workspaces/desktops, but the desk guide only shows one.
For all I know this could be some timing issue, that doesn't show up with the
older version of wmaker; I've seen some odd failures at home with the older
version (occasionally there's a popup "You're not running a GNOME-compliant
Created attachment 41108 [details]
Quick snapshot of the desk guide applet with task list
Exactly the same thing happens on my box here at home, just tried it. This is a
fully up-to-date Raw Hide, barring the kernel which I've kept at 2.4.16-0.5 ...
Ok, I talked to havoc pennington about this (elite haxor for the gnome group)
<much "oh my gawd, thats sooo wrong" deleted>
Basically this is very old code written a couple of years ago. the gnome pannel
piece looks at hints from the window manager to work out what screen it's on but
apparently this is dependant in the gnome code not on WindowMakers side.
Really this boils down to a 'what the heck is the gnome bit looking for which is
unfortunately havoc's dept not mine. I don't see this being resolved anytime
soon as I'm also handling the php package which has been prioritized.
I'll keep you appraised of how things go but I think this one went into the low
priority basket for now
Just to be clear, the problem could very well be in windowmaker, it's just that
it will probably need to be debugged by tracing the desk guide to see where the
communication with window maker breaks down.
I found the problem, in fact. It's fixed by a two-lie addition in the 0.80
patch for WindowMaker. I've extracted the relevant bit; it needs to be
credited. Line from the changlog is:
- Added patch to fix some gnome issues (Les Schaffer <email@example.com>)
I'll attach the two-liner in a minute. You could either add this as a patch or
just bump up to 0.80.
Created attachment 42031 [details]
Fix wmaker/gnome-deskguide communication.
So, basically it is a wmaker bug, although it seemed odd that the older version
(0.65) was working fine. I havn't investigated further as this fixes it for me.
I wouldn't mind seeing a new version in Raw Hide (hint, hint) with either this
fix or the whole 0.80, but I havn't tried 0.80 in full yet (just looked in the
ChangeLog for anything GNOME-related and found this fix). 0.70 with fix works a
0.80 doesn't play nice (tried it at work, it aborts every time I close a window
on the same display as the GNOME panel, but bizarrely is fine handling windows
on :0.1 which doesn't have a panel. Looks like the GNOME support is still
rather fragile in wmaker; I'm hoping to find time to look at this (probably
quicker to solve this than to try writing my own window manager, which would be
wasteful and possibly rather arrogant of me).
0.70 is fine with this little patch though.
Heh, I wrote my own window manager. ;-) If you basically like the window maker
UI though it probably doesn't make sense, windowmaker has clean code.
Seems to work alright in the current version (some other issues, I'll create a