Description of problem:
Did a boot.fedoraproject.org-based network install of F13 beta. Mostly default install options, except changed system profile type from desktop to software development, and added "KDE" and "KDE software development" package groups. Installer hung while installing the "dracut" package. I suspect this is an intermittent problem not specific to the "dracut" package, and if it happens again it might hang on a different package. System is otherwise responsive; I can move the mouse pointer around, and I can switch to other VTs and issue shell commands, but no installer progress or network activity has been observed in 30+ minutes.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Fedora 13 beta
It happened on the first (and so far only) try.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. See above for description.
Installer hangs while installing the "dracut" package.
Installer should successfully install all packages without hanging.
What're the results of ps -ef? Can you attach /tmp/anaconda.log and /tmp/syslog?
Sorry, unfortunately I had powered down the system after the failed install, and it appeared that /tmp/anaconda.log and /tmp/syslog weren't saved on the disk either. I tried to reinstall several times but wasn't able to reproduce the issue again. However, here's some additional information and thoughts that may still prove useful.
During the failed install, I got numerous errors about failures to download packages along with the "reboot or retry" prompt, but each time after I selected "retry" it continued successfully, presumably by trying a different mirror server, at least for a while until another error on a subsequent package. In contrast, I experienced few or no such errors on the subsequent reinstalls that completed successfully. This first (failed) install attempt happened shortly after F13-beta had been released, so the mirrors were probably much busier and more prone to failure at that time than with the later installs after things had settled down a bit.
Yesterday while running "yum -y update" on a different machine with Fedora 12, it hung indefinitely while downloading one of the updated package files. When I came back to it after it had been in that state for about an hour, I aborted it with ^C, and it completed successfully when I retried the update operation. And then just today while running "yum -y update" for the first time on the F13-beta system that was the original subject of this bug report, it got into a similar state, but while trying to download one of the package database files (I forget which one) rather than a specific updated package file. In this latter case, yum was displaying extremely large estimated-completion times suggesting to me that the download was completely stalled, and it continued successfully after I pressed ^C once, causing it to try a different mirror server.
The common thread here, which I suspect is also the culprit with the original installation failure, is that there seem to be cases where a download operation from a mirror server begins successfully but stalls part-way through, and the installation utility (be it anaconda or yum) waits indefinitely to finish what it started.
My suggestion would be to augment the various download routines to have a reasonable timeout on data transfers during the download of a given file, in addition to whatever timeouts apply when making the initial TCP/IP connection attempt. Furthermore, I think it would be a good idea whenever a download fails (whether due to initial-connection or during-transfer timeout or prematurely-closed connection) to automatically try failing over to other mirrors before giving up and displaying an error message. yum usually seems to be pretty good about failing over to another mirror server when it actually decides that a download has failed, but I have my doubts about anaconda given my experience described above, where it would error out but continue successfully after I immediately selected "retry".
David, can you reproduce the bug on current F13?
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I think I was able to reproduce it once on released-F13, using boot.fedoraproject.org, but it hung on a different package than dracut. When I tried it again more recently, I got so many error messages about failure to download various packages (which would succeed after clicking Retry), that I gave up on BFO and downloaded the DVD instead. If nothing else, there's definitely still an robustness/usability issue with package download operations. The installer should do better about retrying (perhaps trying other mirrors if available) instead of just waiting for user intervention, and the default selection (if the user just presses Enter) should be Retry instead of Abort. If possible, it would be good if the installer could continue to retry periodically in the background even when the Retry/Abort dialog is displayed, and if it succeeds later, it could automatically dismiss the dialog and continue on with the installation. That would allow for unattended installations.
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OK to close it. I was able to install F15-beta recently using BFO without experiencing any of these issues. In general, however, to be on the safe side I usually burn a DVD image and install from that, then install updates after booting into the newly-installed system.