Description of problem: A rawhide update from September 16th replaced systemd-sysvinit with upstart-sysvinit. There is even a rawhide-report note: - have upstart-sysvinit obsolete systemd-sysvinit, to reset the default Fair enough as systemd-10-2.fc15 at that time was not exactly working. Only now with the current rawhide the following happens: Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package initscripts.x86_64 0:9.21-2.fc15 set to be updated ---> Package systemd-sysvinit.x86_64 0:10-3.fc15 set to be installed --> Processing Dependency: upstart for package: 1:readahead-1.5.7-1.fc15.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: upstart = 0.6.5-8.fc15 for package: upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5-8.fc15.x86_64 --> Processing Conflict: upstart-sysvint-0.6.5-8.fc15.x86_64 conflicts systemd-sysvinit --> Processing Conflict: systemd-sysvinit-10-3.fc15.x86_64 conflicts upstart-sysvinit and both initscripts-9.21-2.fc15 and systemd-sysvinit-10-3.fc15 are dropped from a transaction. Yes, I know how to force replacing upstart-sysvinit with systemd-sysvinit but this still leaves "Package readahead-1.5.7-1.fc15.x86_64 requires upstart" as the last one got obsoleted by systemd-sysvinit. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): systemd-10-3.fc15 upstart-0.6.5-8.fc15
Oh, another effect of obsoleting upstart when it was still in use is that a clean reboot after such operation does not seem to be possible. OTOH I have no idea if a "conditional obosolete" is even possible.
Fixed in 10-4 to obsolete upstart-sysvinit too.
(In reply to comment #2) > Fixed in 10-4 to obsolete upstart-sysvinit too. It does not appear work too well: ... --> Running transaction check ---> Package systemd-sysvinit.x86_64 0:10-4.fc15 set to be installed --> Processing Conflict: upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5-9.fc15.x86_64 conflicts systemd-sysvinit --> Processing Conflict: systemd-sysvinit-10-4.fc15.x86_64 conflicts upstart-sysvinit --> Finished Dependency Resolution .... Packages skipped because of dependency problems: initscripts-9.21-2.fc15.x86_64 from rawhide systemd-sysvinit-10-4.fc15.x86_64 from rawhide
What are you upgrading from?
(In reply to comment #4) > What are you upgrading from? Current rawhide. Somewhat recently it updated upstart-0.6.5-8.fc15 and upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5.fc15, replacing systemd-sysvinit in the process, and later upstart was updated to 0.6.5-9.fc15. Yes, I know that I can do systemd updates "by hand" but this is not the point. As a matter of fact I did force an update to systemd-10-3.fc15, with all related dependencies like systemd-sysvinit and initscripts, but I had to back that out because that version of systemd was plain broken (see bug 630225 which is still ASSIGNED).
I am not sure what an update result is expected here but the current rawhide packages I see the following: ---> Package initscripts.x86_64 0:9.21-3.fc15 set to be updated ---> Package systemd.x86_64 0:10-6.fc15 set to be updated ---> Package systemd-units.x86_64 0:10-6.fc15 set to be updated ---> Package upstart.x86_64 0:0.6.5-11.fc15 set to be updated ---> Package upstart-sysvinit.x86_64 0:0.6.5-11.fc15 set to be updated --> Processing Conflict: systemd-10-6.fc15.x86_64 conflicts upstart-sysvinit --> Processing Conflict: upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5-11.fc15.x86_64 conflicts systemd-sysvinit --> Finished Dependency Resolution --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: systemd-units = 10-3.fc15 for package: systemd-10-3.fc15.x86_64 ---> Package systemd.x86_64 0:10-6.fc15 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: systemd-sysvinit for package: initscripts-9.21-3.fc15.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: upstart = 0.6.5-9.fc15 for package: upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5-9.fc15.x86_64 ---> Package upstart-sysvinit.x86_64 0:0.6.5-11.fc15 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: systemd-units = 10-3.fc15 for package: systemd-10-3.fc15.x86_64 ---> Package systemd-units.x86_64 0:10-6.fc15 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: upstart = 0.6.5-9.fc15 for package: upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5-9.fc15.x86_64 ---> Package upstart.x86_64 0:0.6.5-11.fc15 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Packages skipped because of dependency problems: initscripts-9.21-3.fc15.x86_64 from rawhide systemd-10-6.fc15.x86_64 from rawhide systemd-units-10-6.fc15.x86_64 from rawhide upstart-0.6.5-11.fc15.x86_64 from rawhide upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5-11.fc15.x86_64 from rawhide Yes, removing upstart-sysvinit and updating the rest does work but this does not happen without an "extra help". Missing "Obsoletes: upstart-sysvinit"? After such "hand" operation was performed 'man init' results in: man: can't resolve /usr/share/man/man8/init.8.gz: No such file or directory man: can't open /usr/share/man/man8/init.8: No such file or directory Would not be better to have '.so man1/systemd.1' in such file? The other catch is that after such update a system does not really properly boot in a default configuration due to a buggy systemd and requires 'init=/sbin/upstart'.
From fresh F14 install to rawhide I get: --> Processing Conflict: systemd-11-1.fc15.x86_64 conflicts upstart-sysvinit --> Processing Conflict: upstart-sysvinit-0.6.5-11.fc15.x86_64 conflicts systemd-sysvinit --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: systemd conflicts with upstart-sysvinit Error: upstart-sysvinit conflicts with systemd
The current proposed (but not built) solution is that upstart-sysvinit goes away, and upstart can use the systemd implementations of shutdown/reboot/etc.
should be fixed by upstart-0.6.5-12.fc15
After the upgrade from Fedora 14 to 15, i get: yum update --skip-broken Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package upstart.x86_64 0:1.2-2.fc14 will be updated --> Processing Dependency: upstart = 1.2-2.fc14 for package: upstart-sysvinit-1.2-2.fc14.x86_64 ---> Package upstart.x86_64 0:1.2-4.fc15 will be an update --> Processing Dependency: /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit for package: upstart-1.2-4.fc15.x86_64 --> Running transaction check ---> Package initscripts-legacy.x86_64 0:9.30-2.fc15 will be installed ---> Package upstart.x86_64 0:1.2-2.fc14 will be updated --> Processing Dependency: upstart = 1.2-2.fc14 for package: upstart-sysvinit-1.2-2.fc14.x86_64 --> Finished Dependency Resolution Packages skipped because of dependency problems: initscripts-legacy-9.30-2.fc15.x86_64 from fedora upstart-1.2-4.fc15.x86_64 from updates