Bug 636238 - midori needs an update
Summary: midori needs an update
Keywords:
Status: CLOSED ERRATA
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: midori
Version: 13
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
low
medium
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Peter Gordon
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
URL:
Whiteboard:
: 668149 (view as bug list)
Depends On:
Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2010-09-21 17:45 UTC by Ranjan Maitra
Modified: 2011-01-19 21:06 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

Fixed In Version: midori-0.2.9-4.fc14
Clone Of:
Environment:
Last Closed: 2011-01-19 21:06:56 UTC
Type: ---
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Description Ranjan Maitra 2010-09-21 17:45:40 UTC
Description of problem:

midori is version 0.2.6 in fedora but already version 0.2.10 is available.


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

0.2.6-1.fc13

How reproducible:

everytime

Steps to Reproduce:
1. yum list midori
2.
3.
  
Actual results:

Installed Packages
midori.i686                        0.2.6-1.fc13                        @updates

Expected results:

Installed Packages
midori.i686                        0.2.10-1.fc13                        @updates

Additional info:

I think it has needed an update for a while.

Comment 1 Kevin Fenzi 2010-09-21 17:53:18 UTC
0.2.8 is in fact the newest upstream release. Where are you seeing 0.2.10?

We decided not to update f12/f13 because there were interface changes that might be confusing. 
(no bookmarks icon/menu on the menubar). 

We might revisit this with 0.2.8 however as some of the changes were reverted.

Comment 2 Ranjan Maitra 2010-09-21 18:08:26 UTC
sorry my bad mistake. the confusing update was 0.2.7 and the new change is 0.2.8 (not 0.2.10) which reverts the bookmarks icon/menu on the toolbar.

Comment 3 Ranjan Maitra 2010-09-30 12:45:59 UTC
Hi, anything new on this front? 0.2.8 has now been out for ten days. thanks!

Comment 4 Kevin Fenzi 2010-10-02 22:28:55 UTC
Yeah, I guess we can push to f13/f12 now since that interface change was reverted. 

Will do so today. Testing of the updates very welcome.

Comment 5 Fedora Update System 2010-10-02 22:37:28 UTC
midori-0.2.8-2.fc13 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 13.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/midori-0.2.8-2.fc13

Comment 6 Fedora Update System 2010-10-03 00:37:49 UTC
midori-0.2.8-2.fc12 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 12.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/midori-0.2.8-2.fc12

Comment 7 Christoph Wickert 2010-10-03 08:51:04 UTC
IMHO midori 0.2.8 should not bee pushed to F13. The controversial part of the interface changes were reverted, but the new solution is very different from 0.2.6. This is a violation of our stable updates vision:
"Stable releases should provide a consistent user experience throughout the lifecycle, and only fix bugs and security issues."
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision#Vision_Statement

@Globe Trotter: Can you elaborate *why* midori needs an update? If there is no good reason, IMHO this contradicts our https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

Comment 8 Kevin Fenzi 2010-10-03 16:23:15 UTC
Humm... I guess I need to install 0.2.6 and look at it against 0.2.8. 

My understanding was that the user visible change was reverted...

Comment 9 Kevin Fenzi 2010-10-03 17:05:29 UTC
I guess I can pull these for now until we discuss it further. 

0.2.6 and 0.2.7 include some very nice performance and non user visible changes. 

I guess it depends what we mean by 'user experience'. If thats any change in the UI? 
Translation updates? How about the allowing speed dial to have different sizes? 

v0.2.8
 + Re-implement Bookmarks menu and toolbar button
 + Show transferbar even if statusbar is hidden
 + Smart case for inline search while typing
 + Use Alt+Shift+Right instead of Ctrl+Right for Next Page
 + Adding, edit and delete buttons for user scripts/ styles
 + Rename 'Minimize Tab' to 'Show Tab Icon Only'
 + Delete key in completion deletes items
 + Don't show homepage in bookmarkbar
 + Fix crash when using location arrow button

v0.2.7
 + Multiple word completion in location
 + Database backed bookmarks
 + Search bookmark panel and drag bookmarks
 + Bookmarks in address completion
 + Removed bookmarks and history from menubar
 + Add 'Minimize New Tabs' and 'Copy Addresses of Tabs'
 + Refactorings and optimisations in the core
 + Adblock compatibility improvements and speedup
 + Changeable speed dial size
 + Delayed pages at startup, or after a crash

Comment 10 Kevin Fenzi 2010-10-03 17:27:42 UTC
So, digging thru git logs, it seems that the changes here are probibly not worth pushing to stable. 
It's just enhancements and fixes for minor issues, no major bugs. (The 0.2.8 fix for the location bar might be, but that was introduced in 0.2.7 :) 

So, I would say we should avoid pushing until theres a better reason. :( 

Sorry for the trouble here.

Comment 11 Christoph Wickert 2010-10-03 17:39:21 UTC
Please don't get me wrong: I don't mind pushing the new version. In fact, I think that many people would like it. Nevertheless it contradicts the updates policy that you yourself drafted.

IMHO this is a nice opportunity that we should ether reconsider the updates policy or offer an additional channel for enhancement updates.

Comment 12 Kevin Fenzi 2010-10-03 20:38:54 UTC
Yes, I was thinking the crasher in autocomplete was worth the update, but didn't note correctly that that happened in 0.2.7, which isn't in f12/f13. :) 

Yes, some enhancement framework would be good.

Comment 13 Christoph Wickert 2010-10-03 22:46:53 UTC
The crasher in autocomplete isn't fixed in 0.2.8 ether, it's only fixed in GIT.

Comment 14 Kevin Fenzi 2011-01-08 18:27:43 UTC
*** Bug 668149 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 15 Kevin Fenzi 2011-01-08 18:29:43 UTC
Revisiting this, we may want to ask for an update exception for the next release... 

There are several crashers in 0.2.8 (in f14 currently) and I think the ui changes are somewhat minor. 

0.2.10 is probibly going to come along soon too, so I would like to wait until then to evaluate if we can ask for an exception for that, or try and backport the crasher fixes.

Comment 16 Christoph Wickert 2011-01-08 20:22:59 UTC
Nirik, I think you are too strict here. Bug 668149 was filed against F14 which came with 0.2.8. The changes between 0.2.8 and 0.2.9 are minor, in fact I don't see any. On the other hand 0.2.9 fixes a number of bugs e.g. bug 636967.

Comment 17 Christoph Wickert 2011-01-08 20:27:27 UTC
Just to be clear: What I wanted to say is that for F14 there are no big changes and the update IMHO does not violate the stable updates policy. I don't think we need an exception.

Comment 18 Kevin Fenzi 2011-01-09 17:27:16 UTC
Well, I guess you are correct... there are some UI changes, but they are all additive, like adding an identify-as to the menubar, and the --help-execute command line option, and minor. 

So, I can look at doing a 0.2.9 for f14...

Comment 19 Kevin Fenzi 2011-01-09 20:31:05 UTC
I had to add in: 
http://git.xfce.org/apps/midori/commit/?id=97a7ae9955d4264f922452d6933f3a0e1e4b03f6

As without it, midori crashes after a few minutes of use.

Comment 20 Fedora Update System 2011-01-09 20:31:27 UTC
midori-0.2.9-4.fc14 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 14.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/midori-0.2.9-4.fc14

Comment 21 Fedora Update System 2011-01-10 21:28:52 UTC
midori-0.2.9-4.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedora 14 testing repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update midori'.  You can provide feedback for this update here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/midori-0.2.9-4.fc14

Comment 22 Fedora Update System 2011-01-19 21:06:44 UTC
midori-0.2.9-4.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedora 14 stable repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.


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