Created attachment 461001 [details] Screen shot comparing wrong rendering in OOWRITER and correct rendering in GEDIT for 0D30 and 0D31. Description of problem: F14 is having serious rendering issues in combinations with 0D30 and 0D31. These new issues is present in all Malayalam fonts including default smc-meera-font and Lohit Malayalam. Screen shot comparing the wrong rendering in OOWRITER and correct rendering in GEDIT for the combinations is attached. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): openoffice.org-core-3.3.0-13.3.fc14 libicu-4.4.1-3.fc14 Steps to reproduce: 1. Open oowriter. 2. Type following key combinations: (i) ക + ് + ര (0D15 + 0D4D + 0D30) or (Key k + Key d + key j) (ii) ക + ് + റ (0D15 + 0D4D + 0D31) or (Key k + Key d + shift key j) (iii) ന + ് + റ (0D28 + 0D4D + 0D31) or (Key v + Key d + shift key j) (iv) റ + ് + റ (0D31 + 0D4D + 0D31) or (Key shift j + Key d + shift key j) Actual results: When you type above combinations in F14, the result you get now is: (i) ക + ് + ര => ര്ക (ii) ക + ് + റ => ര്ക (iii) ന + ് + റ => ര്ന (iv) റ + ് + റ => ര്റ Expected results: The expected result for the combinations are: (i) ക + ് + ര => ക്ര (ii) ക + ് + റ => ക്റ (iii) ന + ് + റ => ന്റ (iv) റ + ് + റ => റ്റ Additional info: Till F13, only Lohit Malayalam, Samyak Malayalam and Kalyani had problems, that too only with 0D30, rest all combinations and all fonts were perfect. Bug has been filed for the same against ICU: Bug #529905 (i) All consonants except 0D16, 0D1A, 0D20, 0D25, and 0D32, when combined with 0D30 (ര) gives new conjunct with the prebased glyph. (ii) All consonants except 0D28 and 0D31, when combined with 0D31 (റ) results with just the key combination.
And how do we know what is right and what is wrong in these circumstances ? Is there formal specifications for these. How about e.g. their rendering under uniscribe ?
just done scratch build reverting patch http://bugs.icu-project.org/trac/changeset/26090/icu/trunk/source/layout/IndicReordering.cpp http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2605879 things working properly after reverting this patch, dunno what was basic intention behind the patch, Praveen and Ani can tell better, but removing this patch solve the thing written in patch "The TDIL spec says that consonant + virama + RRA should produce a rakar in Malayalam. However, // it seems that almost none of the fonts for Malayalam are set up to handle this.// So, we're going to force the issue here by using the rakar as defined with RA in most fonts. " but dunno was there any problem previously?
Created attachment 461038 [details] after reverting patch
That's great, so we have a plausible fix. Does anyone have a reference to the TDIL spec, I can only seem to find brief plans and notes on it.
Created attachment 461226 [details] pages from vishwabharati april 2002 release luckily i had a copy of Vishwabharati PDf, just exported relevant pages from it. on page 31 they have given information regarding rakar, lakar looks like may be with patch it is implemented wrongly .
*** Bug 529905 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Created attachment 461472 [details] Screenshot showing Uniscribe with correct rendering with 0D30 and 0D31 The patch applied here was unwanted, and thats the reason it created the whole mess. Few years back, there was a request for this patch, but it was actually wrong and hence not applied in any rendering engine. It at all anywhere this was applied has been reverted. The actual and correct rendering is the result what we got after Pravin has reverted the patch. This rendering exists throughout all rendering engines. For reference, screen shot in Uniscribe attached. Caolon, I would really appreciate if you could revert the patch which will help things to work smoothly. Thanks to you guys for your help and understanding.
Filed this as http://bugs.icu-project.org/trac/ticket/8198 builds underway,
icu-4.4.1-5.fc14 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 14. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/icu-4.4.1-5.fc14
icu-4.4.1-5.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedora 14 testing repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. If you want to test the update, you can install it with su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update icu'. You can provide feedback for this update here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/icu-4.4.1-5.fc14
Created attachment 463066 [details] Screen shot showing correct rendering in ICU in F14 testing repo Tested icu from F14 testing repo. Working perfect. Have attached screen shots for icu with Meera (traditional script) and Lohit Malayalam (new script) fonts. Thank you Caolan for all th help :)
icu-4.4.1-6.fc14 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 14. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/icu-4.4.1-6.fc14
icu-4.4.1-6.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedora 14 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
(In reply to comment #1) > And how do we know what is right and what is wrong in these circumstances ? Is > there formal specifications for these. Caolán, If we redo Unicode, we should have followed rules from http://www.malayalamresourcecentre.org/Mrc/literature/keralapaanineeyam/panineeyam.html ie, symbols both for both 0D30 and 0D31 behave same, only difference it should make is when displayed as full letter. And use 0D3A when sound "t" in English words "Tea, tight" was indented. http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unicode-6.0/U60-0D00.pdf 0D3A MALAYALAM LETTER TTTA 0D30 MALAYALAM LETTER RA 0D31 MALAYALAM LETTER RRA But for now we have to do case by case.
Created attachment 498505 [details] redering of u0d30 and u0d31 in fedora rawhide(f16) just tested in rawhide its working fine libreoffice-writer-3.3.99.4-2.fc16.x86_64 libicu-4.6-2.fc16.x86_64 if there are particular test cases not working fine please provide them or report new bug, so we can test and start working on it thanks
Created attachment 498713 [details] PDF file exported to text ICU rendering in rawhide I agree with Pravin's comment #15 and confirm that malayalam rendering works good in rawhide. Have exported the document to PDF and the same is attached for reference. Thanks!