Description of problem: there is no Language Selection in GDM. Specially in Live ISO, it can be very helpful to allow language selection. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): gdm-2.91.91-1.fc15.x86_64 anaconda-15.20.1-1.fc15 How reproducible: Everytime Steps to Reproduce: 1. run gdm from installed system or boot from Live ISO 2. 3. Actual results: No language selection in GDM Expected results: there can be language selection Additional info:
I second this bug with gdm-2.91.91-1.fc15.x86_64, running in a fallback mode.
so, per Ray, this is a design choice, but desktop team recognize that expecting language choice on live sessions to be done manually by drilling down into control center kind of sucks, and it would be better to have a prompt on first login or something similar, but that's f16 timeframe stuff, this won't change for f15. adding commonbugs keyword so we at least document this for release. -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
-- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
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The given work-around doesn't work if you use other desktop, like XFCE. I have no way to specify my language. Note that in my case the language of choice for some users is not the same as the system language default.
(In reply to comment #13) > The given work-around doesn't work if you use other desktop, like XFCE. I have > no way to specify my language. Note that in my case the language of choice for > some users is not the same as the system language default. Seconded for the XFCE point. Still not fixed in F16 (I'm using the XFCE spin).
gdm devs would suggest the fix there is for Xfce to implement a language selector, I think. -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
I think this missing feature is pretty important: I have seen plenty of people complaining about it. The current Gnome UX doesn't make sense IMHO - you have to login, somehow manage to find the language list (which may be non-trivial if English or the system language is not your native language: the fact that the language list only shows the translated names doesn't help), log out again, and then login one more time to your desktop. For most other desktops this not even possible. Gdm doesn't seem to respect ~/.i18n any more either (which was ok for gdm2) so that workaround is not available either. User keyboard layout selection is also another important lost feature.
(In reply to comment #16) > you have to login, somehow manage to find > the language list (which may be non-trivial > if English or the system language is not your > native language: the fact that the language list > only shows the translated names doesn't help), > log out again, and then login one more time to your desktop. > For most other desktops this not even possible. The worse thing is that you totally lose the functionality of per-user setting of languages. Currently, the language setting tool affects all users, forcing them to use the same language.
cong: that's not accurate for the GNOME case. The GNOME tool can (or at least is _designed to be able to_; it seems to be buggy) set per-user and system language separately. system-config-language can't, but GNOME isn't designed to use s-c-l. the Xfce case is obviously different, though. -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
I have Fedora 16 and Gnome 3, and have this issue at login. The default keymap for the system and myself is Dvorak. For my wife it's US English. The layout is set to us-english in her account, but the login screen still forces Dvorak and there is no way to select an alternate layout for that account like there was in Gnome2.
Rich, the keyboard bug is bug 752998.
I think that it is crucial that the language selection is at the login screen for two reasons: 1) users of other desktops like xfce 2) non-english-speaking users who are not able to navigate through the system menus in English to change their language preference. Regards, Enrique
(In reply to comment #21) > I think that it is crucial that the language selection is at the login screen > for two reasons: > 1) users of other desktops like xfce > 2) non-english-speaking users who are not able to navigate through the system > menus in English to change their language preference. > Regards, > Enrique I would say the same even for keybord (as gdm does not use the same config as the DE)
Ray, what is the plan for gnome-3.4 / Fedora 17?
This is part of preparation for F17 L10N QA Test: (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-07) It is obvious that almost all l10n testers will give +1 to this bug to be fixed. Another finding not mentioned yet is below. 3) When non-english speaking users can be lucky enough and reach the Applications->system tools->system settings->Region and language, it shows only four languages by default (British English, Chinese, English and Spanish).
(In reply to comment #24) > 3) When non-english speaking users can be lucky enough and reach the > Applications->system tools->system settings->Region and language, it shows only > four languages by default (British English, Chinese, English and Spanish). I agree, I would also like to see more major languages listed by default.
> It is obvious that almost all l10n testers will give +1 to this bug to be > fixed. > Another finding not mentioned yet is below. > > 3) When non-english speaking users can be lucky enough and reach the > Applications->system tools->system settings->Region and language, it shows only > four languages by default (British English, Chinese, English and Spanish). Bug filed upstream: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671530 for this issue.
I have a non-English-speaking guest and wanted to let her use my Fedora 16 XFCE desktop. There's no way to set a user-specific language and I don't want to change the system default.
The initial bug comment of A S Alam 2011-03-03 01:38:14 EST is fully applicable for Fedora 18-alpha and 18-beta Live versions. There was a workaround in Fedora 16 [1], but now I can´t see option like this. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Quick_Install_Guide
(In reply to comment #24) > 3) When non-english speaking users can be lucky enough and reach the > Applications->system tools->system settings->Region and language, it shows > only four languages by default (British English, Chinese, English and > Spanish). Which basically means you're forcing people to use GNOME which is a no-go. Choosing your preferred desktop environment is a matter of personal taste and the display manager should not hamper this decision. Many people prefer tiling window managers like "awesome", for example. These do not provide any means of configuring your language at all. So, I think there should be absolutely no discussion about the language selector being reintegrated into gdm.
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