Bug 684898 - Cannot boot Fedora 16 Live image from USB
Summary: Cannot boot Fedora 16 Live image from USB
Keywords:
Status: CLOSED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: plymouth
Version: 16
Hardware: i686
OS: Unspecified
unspecified
high
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ray Strode [halfline]
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Depends On:
Blocks:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2011-03-14 18:24 UTC by Ulrich Hobelmann
Modified: 2013-02-13 21:41 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

Fixed In Version:
Doc Type: Bug Fix
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Clone Of:
: 787485 (view as bug list)
Environment:
Last Closed: 2013-02-13 21:41:39 UTC
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screenshot for comment #6 (2.21 MB, image/jpeg)
2011-09-06 01:54 UTC, Eugene Kanter
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Description Ulrich Hobelmann 2011-03-14 18:24:41 UTC
Description of problem:
When plymouth starts and I switch it off with Escape, the upper left corner of the screen (about 1/4 of the area) is white, the rest black, and nothing happens.

If I boot with the "quiet" kernel option turned
off, I see the kernel boot, but after "startyng plymouth demon" nothing more
happens (this is the same with the alpha and the 03-12 nightly).

The machine is a subnotebook, so I (have to) boot from USB-stick (created with liveusb-creator on F14).

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
F15 alpha, but desktop-i386-20110312.01.iso also fails.

How reproducible:
Boot F15 from USB stick.
  
Actual results:
Boot seems to hang.

Expected results:
F15 should boot up normally, with output from the init scripts, and eventually an X server.

Comment 1 Ulrich Hobelmann 2011-03-26 08:48:45 UTC
I tried booting the latest Ubuntu alpha from stick and that also failed, and because everybody else seems to be doing fine, I suspected the stick to be broken, but reading/writing files works fine, and Fedora 14-Live also boots fine from the stick.

Since Ubuntu and Fedora use different init systems now, that only leaves the new kernel or Plymouth (which Ubuntu now also uses, AFAIK). The latest Fedora nightly (2011-03-24) also did not boot, same problem.

Is there any additional information I can provide?

Comment 2 Ulrich Hobelmann 2011-03-26 20:08:02 UTC
Ok, this seems to be "only" a LiveUSB-issue. I took my system to F15 by manually upgrading with yum, and it seems to be running quite well for the alpha status.

Comment 3 Ulrich Hobelmann 2011-04-09 20:20:54 UTC
Beta RC2 doesn't boot from USB, either. The kernel and plymouth start and that's it.

Comment 4 Ulrich Hobelmann 2011-08-27 13:32:56 UTC
F16 Alpha also doesn't boot from USB... Seems like the Linux world is becoming closed to me. As recent Ubuntu releases had the same problem, it's probably in the kernel, and since apparrently I'm the only one with this problem, I'm not expecting future releases to be much different.

Comment 5 Ulrich Hobelmann 2011-08-27 16:27:52 UTC
Correction: the latest Ubuntu nightly iso DOES boot from USB, so they must have fixed something in Plymouth or the kernel. Normally, I'd expect Fedora to get bugfixes faster than Ubuntu, so probably they fixed something downstream.

Comment 6 Eugene Kanter 2011-09-06 01:51:47 UTC
Image from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/16-Alpha/Fedora/i386/os/images/boot.iso does not boot from USB stick at all.

Latest as of now from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/16/i386/os/images/boot.iso boots into menu then:

1. default graphical install fails with an error, image attached.
2. rescue mode works fine.

Comment 7 Eugene Kanter 2011-09-06 01:54:39 UTC
Created attachment 521557 [details]
screenshot for comment #6

Comment 8 Eugene Kanter 2011-09-07 01:55:14 UTC
Looks like USB has nothing to do with this F16 problem. Same when using physical CDROM drive.

Comment 9 C. M. Trindade 2011-09-29 16:45:07 UTC
I have used Fedora-16-Alpha-i686-Live-XFCE on 32-bit Intel Centrino and after intallation even rescue mode failed. After a closer look I saw that the boot dir was completely empty. I will try the new image thought.

Comment 10 Mark Lambert 2012-02-05 16:21:57 UTC
After upgrade to FC16 x64 (from F15 x64 using pre-upgrade) system booted fine.

Now goes to black screen.  Removed quiet and last message seen on screen seems to be the line "Starting Plymouth Login" or close to that.  Not sure what updates caused this.

Currently ONLY using nomodeset allows boot.  Intel 945GM chipset on a Toshiba Satellite P200 notebook.

Not sure what caused this, not sure what to provide that may help debug.  Booting from F16 DVD does not work either. (Will with nomodeset).

Note:  Also downgraded recent updates, and even disabled update repos and typed 'sudo yum distribution-synchronization' causing lots of downgrades.  Expected that this would fix the issue - nope.  Re-enabled Updates (Fedora, RPMFusion non-free/free updates) and allowed updating again.  No luck.

Please - this has been a nuisance and becoming a big issue as cannot use some apps effectively because screen resolution stuck.  

Gnome control center - Displays:  "Unknown".  Detect Displays button does nothing. (Assume because of nomodeset).

Gnome has also fallen back to the non-enhanced experience (which I had finally gotten so used to that I want it back lol).

Thanks

Comment 11 C. M. Trindade 2012-02-06 13:11:17 UTC
There is a difference between the F16 USB and the DVD installation. I found this out when I tried to reinstall F16 with the DVD and the system did not detect it. At the time I probably removed the boot dir completely to get the DVD going. When I got to the login screen I could see that the system was different.

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Comment 13 Fedora End Of Life 2013-02-13 21:41:43 UTC
Fedora 16 changed to end-of-life (EOL) status on 2013-02-12. Fedora 16 is 
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