Bug 72495 - (NET 3C59X) mii-tool does not correctly report link status
(NET 3C59X) mii-tool does not correctly report link status
Product: Red Hat Linux
Classification: Retired
Component: kernel (Show other bugs)
i686 Linux
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Assigned To: Jeff Garzik
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Reported: 2002-08-24 11:39 EDT by Brian C. Huffman
Modified: 2013-07-02 22:06 EDT (History)
2 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2004-09-30 11:39:52 EDT
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patch to check_link_down in network-functions (449 bytes, patch)
2003-02-11 21:10 EST, Jay Berkenbilt
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Description Brian C. Huffman 2002-08-24 11:39:55 EDT
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User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461)

Description of problem:
On a Dell Lattitude w/ the docking station (and a 3Com 900 NIC), mii-tool 
reports a "no-link" status...when in fact there is a link and I can manually 
configure the card

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. boot up
2. start network - fails.  run mii-tool in NIC
3. reports no-link

Actual Results:  reports no link

Expected Results:  should report link

Additional info:
Comment 1 Need Real Name 2002-08-27 18:33:40 EDT
Similar problem.

/etc/init.d/network fails to start up eth0 because mii-tools says that there is
no  link. I bring up eth0 by hand and mii-tools still says that there is no link.

Driver is 8139too.

Similar problem is described in
and claimed to be fixed in 2.4.19-pre10.
Comment 2 Bill Nottingham 2002-08-27 20:37:19 EDT
Arjan, this appears to be a driver issue..?
Comment 3 Arjan van de Ven 2002-08-28 04:33:56 EDT
does ethtool work?
Comment 4 Need Real Name 2002-08-28 08:56:44 EDT
ethtool also says "Link detected: no"

This was not a problem in 7.3 because ifup did not use the function
check_link_down (defined in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions)
which uses mii-tools.

The (null) ifup script calls check_link_down which calls mii-tools. mii-tools
says there is no link. This means that /etc/init.d/nework does not even try to
bring up eth0.

So maybe, its driver bugginess made important by a change in init script.
Comment 5 Jay Berkenbilt 2003-02-11 21:06:10 EST
The problem is a bug in check_link_down.  ip link show $device may work properly
even when mii-tool or ethtool don't work.  I have the problem described here
with my Orinoco card.  The attached patch to
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions as included with
initscripts-7.04-1 fixes the problem.  I haven't tested this thoroughly with
other configurations, but it does at least accurately detect lnk down on my
wired card and work on my wireless card.
Comment 6 Jay Berkenbilt 2003-02-11 21:07:58 EST
Oops -- I committed before I was finished typing.

I was going to add that my patch assumes that ip link show $device | grep -q UP
indicating that UP is present means that the link is up.

I was also about to delete the sentence "I haven't tested ..." and change it to
say that this works with my wired ethernet card both with link down and link up
as well as with my wireless card.  I'll attach the patch now.
Comment 7 Jay Berkenbilt 2003-02-11 21:10:17 EST
Created attachment 90017 [details]
patch to check_link_down in network-functions

patch relative to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions as in
Comment 8 Jay Berkenbilt 2003-02-11 21:12:34 EST
Hmm. Maybe this was the wrong bug to post my comments to.  My problem is
strictly phoebe-related.
Comment 9 Jay Berkenbilt 2003-02-11 21:26:32 EST
Comment on attachment 90017 [details]
patch to check_link_down in network-functions

ignore this.  It's wrong.
Comment 10 Jay Berkenbilt 2003-02-11 21:27:47 EST
Please pardon all my noise.  I was confused.  Let's just pretend I never posted
to this bug.  I was reporting an incorrect fix for a non-problem that wasn't
related to this bug.  I'm no longer confused.  Sorry about that.
Comment 11 Phil Knirsch 2003-05-23 05:29:23 EDT
This sounds like an initscript/kernel issue rather than a net-tools one, so
reassigning bug to initscripts.

Read ya, Phil
Comment 12 Brian C. Huffman 2003-05-23 09:06:20 EDT
The only way this can be considered an initscript bug is if you just *don't*
want to check link status in the initscripts.  But mii-tool is OBVIOUSLY broken.
 And this is on RedHat 9, so it still exists. 

Tell me how it would be possible if mii-tool reported no link status but the
interfaces is configured and can ping its gateway??

I really think that has gone on far too long - for 2 full stable revs of the OS,
this hasn't worked correctly.  And the worst part is that the OS would be
COMPLETELY UNUSABLE if the person weren't saavy enough to comment out the
mii-tool exit status in the startup script.  That's the ONLY way you can get the
system to startup with a working network connection.

Dell Latittude CP w/ 3c905C-TX/TX-M in docking station...

[root@xyz root]# /sbin/mii-tool eth0
eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link
[root@xyz root]# /sbin/ethtool eth0
Settings for eth0:
No data available
[root@xyz root]# ping
PING ( 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.352 ms
64 bytes from icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.310 ms
64 bytes from icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.318 ms
--- ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 1998ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.310/0.326/0.352/0.027 ms
[root@xyz root]#
Comment 13 Bill Nottingham 2003-05-23 09:54:51 EDT
If mii-tool doesn't report the status correctly, even though the driver supports
mii-tool, that's usually a driver issue.
Comment 14 Alan Cox 2003-06-05 14:40:59 EDT
Seems to work for me in our 2.4.20 errata tree - does it work for you too
Comment 15 Need Real Name 2003-06-05 15:03:22 EDT
mii-tool and ethtool report the correct link status under 2.4.20-13.8 and
8139too driver.
Comment 16 Brian C. Huffman 2003-06-05 20:52:38 EDT
Latest RedHat 9, all updates including kernel-2.4.20-18.9....still doesn't work
correctly for me.  :-(  This is with 3c905 driver...
Comment 17 Arjan van de Ven 2003-06-06 04:45:34 EDT
3c59x you mean surely ?
Comment 18 Brian C. Huffman 2003-06-06 09:47:20 EDT
$ cat /etc/modules.conf
alias eth0 3c59x
Comment 19 Edward Rudd 2004-07-22 16:10:28 EDT
I'm having this same issue with a 3c905b (cyclone) rev 64 card. using
the 3c59x driver in Fedora Core 1.  This bug has popped up several
time (just do a bugzilla search for MII)  Mandrake has a fix for this,
by setting a variable int he ifcfg-eth0 script NO_MII_SUPPORT=yes. 
then having the network-functions check_mii_tool return success if MII
is disabled for that interface..  This should definitely be added into
the Stock RH/Fedora initscripts to work around faulty drivers/mii_tool
Comment 20 Bugzilla owner 2004-09-30 11:39:52 EDT
Thanks for the bug report. However, Red Hat no longer maintains this version of
the product. Please upgrade to the latest version and open a new bug if the problem

The Fedora Legacy project (http://fedoralegacy.org/) maintains some older releases, 
and if you believe this bug is interesting to them, please report the problem in
the bug tracker at: http://bugzilla.fedora.us/

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