Bug 725254 - gnome-applets won't install, but not really "obsoleted by ... gnome-panel"
Summary: gnome-applets won't install, but not really "obsoleted by ... gnome-panel"
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Status: CLOSED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: gnome-applets
Version: 15
Hardware: x86_64
OS: Linux
unspecified
medium
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Assignee: Ray Strode [halfline]
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2011-07-24 19:16 UTC by Jonathan Baron
Modified: 2012-08-06 20:04 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Jonathan Baron 2011-07-24 19:16:41 UTC
Description of problem:

yum would not install gnome-panel.

I downloaded it and tried localinstall and got

Cannot install package 1:gnome-applets-2.32.0-3.fc15.x86_64. It is obsoleted by installed package gnome-panel-3.0.0.1-4.fc15.x86_64

How reproducible:

always

Additional info:

I am using the "forced fallback mode" option so that I can avoid gnome-shell.  I want an applet of the sort that gnome 2 had, which shows processes in a little black window right on the panel.  I think it is called the "multiload applet" or it might be "gnome-applet-netmon".  It seems to be part of gnome-applets, but I cannot install that because it is "obsoleted" by gnome-panel, which does not have any equivalent.  There is a system-monitor applet but you have to click it in order to see anything.  I want to be able to know what is happening all the time (e.g., someone is downloading a huge file).

I am afraid to force the installation of gnome-applet.  It was very difficult to get as far as I have with gnome 3, to make it act like gnome 2.  I did try gnome shell.  Can't use it.  So I'm afraid to mess something up.  Should I try?

Comment 1 Jonathan Baron 2011-07-24 19:33:01 UTC
I meant "yum would not install gnome-applets". Not "gnome-panel".  Sorry.

Comment 2 Matt McCutchen 2011-08-26 01:23:06 UTC
You can bypass the obsolete with --exclude=gnome-panel, but the package still won't work due to broken dependencies (bug 691250).  However, the F16 package seems to work.  I have the F16 multiload applet on my F15 panel now.

Comment 3 Jonathan Baron 2011-08-26 11:51:06 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> You can bypass the obsolete with --exclude=gnome-panel, but the package still
> won't work due to broken dependencies (bug 691250).  However, the F16 package
> seems to work.  I have the F16 multiload applet on my F15 panel now.

Works for me too.  For the benefit of others: You get the F16 rpm from the "testing" section of mirror sites (as of 8/26/2011).  It installs directly without any problems.  (Download it, then use yum localinstall.)  Then, to add it to the panel (in fallback mode, which I will use until it goes away and I have to try Xfce again), alt + right-click on the panel to get "Add to panel", and then - this is crucial - the thing you want to add is System Monitor.  Scroll down until you see it.

The upshot is that I think this bug is "fixed" in Fedora 16 and should probably be marked as fixed, but I seem to be unable to do that.

Comment 4 Matt McCutchen 2011-08-26 19:08:58 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
> For the benefit of others: You get the F16 rpm from the
> "testing" section of mirror sites (as of 8/26/2011).  It installs directly
> without any problems.  (Download it, then use yum localinstall.)

"yum --releasever=16 --enablerepo=updates-testing install gnome-applets", once you install the key from https://fedoraproject.org/keys .

> Then, to add
> it to the panel (in fallback mode, which I will use until it goes away and I
> have to try Xfce again),

I am with you there.

> alt + right-click on the panel to get "Add to panel",

Thanks for the tip; I was doing everything manually in dconf.  I started https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GNOME_2_nostalgics_FAQ with that and more.

> The upshot is that I think this bug is "fixed" in Fedora 16 and should probably
> be marked as fixed, but I seem to be unable to do that.

You would use "CLOSED NEXTRELEASE", but let's see if the developers elect to do something for Fedora 15.

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Comment 6 Fedora End Of Life 2012-08-06 20:04:11 UTC
This message is a notice that Fedora 15 is now at end of life. Fedora 
has stopped maintaining and issuing updates for Fedora 15. It is 
Fedora's policy to close all bug reports from releases that are no 
longer maintained.  At this time, all open bugs with a Fedora 'version'
of '15' have been closed as WONTFIX.

(Please note: Our normal process is to give advanced warning of this 
occurring, but we forgot to do that. A thousand apologies.)

Package Maintainer: If you wish for this bug to remain open because you
plan to fix it in a currently maintained version, feel free to reopen 
this bug and simply change the 'version' to a later Fedora version.

Bug Reporter: Thank you for reporting this issue and we are sorry that 
we were unable to fix it before Fedora 15 reached end of life. If you 
would still like to see this bug fixed and are able to reproduce it 
against a later version of Fedora, you are encouraged to click on 
"Clone This Bug" (top right of this page) and open it against that 
version of Fedora.

Although we aim to fix as many bugs as possible during every release's 
lifetime, sometimes those efforts are overtaken by events.  Often a 
more recent Fedora release includes newer upstream software that fixes 
bugs or makes them obsolete.

The process we are following is described here: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping


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