Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 76897
Problems with Norwegian keyboard
Last modified: 2007-04-18 12:47:59 EDT
Description of Problem:
HW: Abit AT7 motherboard (no PS/2 connectors) and BTC 7932M USB keyboard
with Norwegian layout.
No Norwegian letters (ae, oslash and aring) in console (before startx).
When keyboard "no" is selected, the keys with Norwegian letters results in
When keyboard "no-latin1" is selecetd, nothing appears on screen when
hitting the Norwegian keys. (If I backspace the "invisible" characters, I
end up erasing my prompt).
When the graphical interface is started (startx), the keys works as expected.
'0' (zero) is displayed when the <Alt Gr> key is hit in console when NumLock
is on (no graphical interface started).
If I want to enter '@', which is entered as <Alt Gr>+<2>, the result is '0@'.
If I want to enter '@@@@@', the result is '0@@@@@' (entered as <Alt
When the graphical interface is started, the <Alt Gr> key sometimes acts
strange when hit for the first time.
Usually a single '"' (double quote) is displayed, but sometimes a lot of
'b's are displayed (I have to stop it by hitting <Esc>). I have not hit the
<b> key, and no keys are stuck.
Afterwards, the <Alt Gr> key works as expected in the graphical interface.
Problem 1 and 2 appears regardless of which shell I'm using (bash/tcsh).
RH 8.0 is installed from scratch from the CD's (no upgrade).
This bug is not limited to USB keyboards.
I tested a Compaq Professional Workstation AP550 with a Norwegian Compaq PS/2 keyboard and RH 8.0. The bugs appeared on this PC's console as well.
I can verify problem 2a), ie. Alt-Gr provides a 0 on key-press (not
key-release) whenever Num Lock is active. This occurs for a whole range of
tested keyboard maps (us, uk, dk, dk-latin1, no, no-latin, se-latin1, fi).
I don't have any of the other problems which suggest more than one bug.
I've done some more testing. Same HW as in my original problem description.
Since my USB-only HW works in RH 7.3, I tried an upgrade:
I've installed RH 7.3 from scratch using the CDs:
- Norwegian characters are ok in console and KDE.
- <AltGr> works as expected in console and KDE.
- No problems entering '@'.
UPGRADED to RH 8.0 using the CDs:
- In GRUB the keyboard worked.
- When booting RH 8.0, kudzu started and expected a keyboard input.
The keyboard did not work at all!
Had to wait for kudzu to time out
- The boot continued.
- At login prompt: Neither keyboard nor mouse is working!
I have the same problem with a "be" keyboard layout on a Fujitsu non-USB
keyboard on a Duron machine with an Eagletech MB(RH8 too). Worked fine with
RH73, works fine with Win2000 on the same machine. I have seen a report of this
bug somewhere on a newsgroup for RH73 though.
It seems the alt-gr key sends a 0x30 scan code after the 0xE0 0x38 on key
press. It is naturally translated to a "b". I don't know why it translates to
a "0" on the console, but on X it translates to a double quote because the
keyboard layout has this mapping for altgr+b. This is also strange in my
opinion because be keyboards are not supposed to give special chars on
altgr+alpha. If this was disabled it could be a good temporary workaround.
I would like to stress that benign as it looks it is a very annoying (and even
crippling) problem because the pipe, at sign, braces and brackets are generated
that way on this keyboard.
non-ASCII input into the console won't be supported on UTF-8 based systems (RHL
8+) until the kernel supports it. See the release notes in the next beta for
more info. Of course, input through X will always be supported.