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Bug 78124 - Bad behaviour when selecting "everything"
Bad behaviour when selecting "everything"
Product: Red Hat Linux
Classification: Retired
Component: anaconda (Show other bugs)
i386 Linux
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Assigned To: Jeremy Katz
Brock Organ
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Reported: 2002-11-19 04:27 EST by jfm2
Modified: 2007-04-18 12:48 EDT (History)
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Last Closed: 2002-11-19 13:29:45 EST
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Description jfm2 2002-11-19 04:27:42 EST
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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830

Description of problem:
I use to select "everything" when installing but I certainly don't mean
manpages, fonts and software intended for languages I didn't select in the list
and I don't read.  It is still more aggarvating because  the new graphical
package tool does not allow to uninstall fonts.

IMHO correct behaviour should be to install only the docs, fonts and linguistic
software needed for selected languages by the user (plus those for US english
since there is muvh unstranslated software) not chinese fonts, russian manpages
and fidjian KDE docs.

Alternatively: prompt the user if he has selected "everything"

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Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install and select "verything"

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Comment 1 Jeremy Katz 2002-11-19 14:48:05 EST
No, everything means (according to the Merriam Webster dictionary) "all that
exists".  Everything doesn't mean "everything except these certain things that I
don't think count as everything."
Comment 2 jfm2 2002-11-19 15:19:38 EST
Webster could tell that but books about economy and business tell that if
customers tell that "everything" means "software plus only docs and fonts needed
for the languages they selected and not Chinese or Fidjian" then customers are
right and Webster is wrong. Webster does't back its opinions with $$.  And BTW I
bought a copy of Psyche.  

I select everything for one reason: when I compile a piece of software, autoconf
will try to autodetect required components needed for the build.  If something
is missing either the build will fail or still worse it will silently discard
that functionality and I will get a crippled piece of software.  For instance if
png-devel is not installed I could get a Gimp who does not handle PNGs. 
Installing everything has an additional benefit: I get reproducible builds.  But
I <b>don't</b> want chinese fonts or man pages in Czech.   If it were easy to
uninstall them then problem would be less annoying but in RedHat 8.0 the graphic
tool quite simply doesn't show those font and doc packages so finding them and
uninstalling them is painful. 

Now what you have to decide for next  version of Anaconda is not what webster
says but if there are more people with $$ in hand who think like you "everything
means the kitchen sink too" or like me "Everything does not include docs and
fonts for languages I didn't select bexcause I cannot read them".  The side with
more $$ wins.
Comment 3 Michael Fulbright 2002-12-20 12:38:25 EST
Time tracking values updated

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