Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 79398
RFE adding multilingual-arabic text editor
Last modified: 2007-04-18 12:48:58 EDT
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Description of problem:
Katoob is a lightweight multi-lingual arabic editor that supports keyboard
emulation for users who fail to configure their locale, and can save in multiple
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Steps to Reproduce:
1.just install this small program.
I suspect the easiest way to get something like this into the distribution is by
improving what's already in there with the needed features.
Is there some reason something like these features couldn't be added to the
GNOME text editor gedit (http://gedit.sourceforge.net/)? If it was added to
gedit, it would automatically be included in the GNOME desktop environment, and
also to Red Hat Linux I suspect.
I'd rather integrate all language support into the standard editors, rather than
ship lots of locale-specific editors.
This is not for locales.
It enables all users worldwide to use their own languages whenever they want,
even without configuring the keyboard.
I wonder what is meant by standard editors ??
They haven't been born as standard, and yes, Katoob is now the standard arabic
I wish if you reconsider your decision.
I guess by standard editors is meant those editors that are already included by
default in the desktop environments (like gedit and kedit) and other editors
already included in the distribution (like emacs and vim).
I wouldn't put too much hope in the developer's reconsidering this decision. I
haven't seen any motive on why these features have to be developed in a seperate
editor, and why any of the standard editors couldn't be extended with these
The features of this editor are probably very useful, but I don't see why there
should have to be YAE (Yet Another Editor) for it included in the distribution.
I don't think the problem is too few editors, it's rather the opposite. :-)
Since i'm proud to be the main developer and one of the contributers to the
Opensource community, I Just want to clarify some points:
Katoob is not a standard for the Arabic text editors only, But it's planned to
have all the encodings even those not supported by iconv "Iran System for
example", The current development version includes most of the windows & ISO
encodings, with the ability to switch between them on the fly, In addition to
exporting to the HTML numerical character references.
Yes i know that yudit is supporting many encodings, and that gedit is the
standard for GNOME, But when we started developing katoob, there were no
gnome2, we wanted something that'll work with a minimal libraries required. and
that was katoob, ONLY gtk2, why should i install GNOME2 to use gedit ? or KDE
to use kedit ? Yes i can use yudit for example but it has a strange interface
which is unfamiliar to the newbie users. The multiple keymaps support is
planned for the next stable release "or the the one after" but modifying
current text editors like gedit is not that easy, the developers always have
ideas about their applications which they don't want to change.
> I haven't seen any motive on why these features
> have to be developed in a seperate editor
The same here, How many IRC or ICQ clients we have ?
why do we have: Gtk, Qt, FLTK, ......... ?
Maybe you can't see the points i'm talking about, but really it's important.
> How many IRC or ICQ clients we have ?
Too many. :)
Assigning to the desktop people, they can investigate desktop editors.
I'm not willing to add another editor. It sounds like Katoob has some useful
and important features, but those need to be integrated into an existing editor,
or an existing editor has to be replaced with Katoob instead. This is best
done on the gnome.org level.
Mohammed, here is the situation - we need to have one or a limited number of
applications in a given category. Often we have:
- application A with features X and Y
- application B with features Y and Z
what we want to have is:
- application C with features X, Y, and Z
Ideally we could work with gnome.org so that they ship a single editor
with all the needed features. The mailing list to contact is
firstname.lastname@example.org. Perhaps we should drop gedit in favor of Katoob,
or merge them somehow.
A GNOME editor does not have to require all of GNOME, just the libraries
that are important for an editor. It still works under KDE.
I hope this can be coordinated and sorted out.