Bug 84556 - No no0b friendly way to remove old kernels or third party rpm's
Summary: No no0b friendly way to remove old kernels or third party rpm's
Alias: None
Product: Red Hat Linux
Classification: Retired
Component: rpm
Version: 8.0
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Paul Nasrat
QA Contact: Mike McLean
Depends On:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
Reported: 2003-02-18 20:22 UTC by Fred Pedrotti
Modified: 2007-04-18 16:51 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Doc Type: Bug Fix
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Last Closed: 2005-09-29 19:13:03 UTC

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Description Fred Pedrotti 2003-02-18 20:22:03 UTC
Description of problem:
I know this is more of a request rather than a bug, but I am fallowing the
direction of one of your QA guys at LWE. They told me to report it here and you
all would forwared it to the proper place. :)
After several kernel updateds there is no no0b friendly way to view and remove
old kernels in 8.0 that goes for third party packages  as well(GnoRPM). I know
how to rpm -e package.rpm but for people new to Linux/RedHat this may get people
frustrated wanting to clean up their box.
Also the pkg managers ability to read installed packages is faulty at times.
This may be on bugzilla already but as su - and doing an rpm -e you still get a
package is not installed is much a pane in the arse. yes I did an rpm --rebuilddb.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):


Point2 seems to reflect all updated kernels as far back as 7.2 

How reproducible:

install 8.0

Steps to Reproduce:
for point 2
1.install rpm ie via su - rpm -ivh  Mplayer*rpm

2.su - 
rpm -e mplayer.somenumbers.somearch.rpm

mplayer.somenumbers.somearch.rpm is not installed
Actual results: installd but not reported in rpm db

Expected results:install uninstall via rpm

Additional info: Point1 is waht I realy want to convay as a needed feature to
any new releace, but point2 is a little troubleing and I expect it is being

Comment 1 Jeff Johnson 2003-02-20 16:09:43 UTC
What's wrong with the ouput of
    rpm -q kernel

Comment 2 Fred Pedrotti 2003-02-20 17:23:41 UTC
I just saying Joe no0b needs a graphical way to view what is installed in
his/her system to start out. For a biz application I can understand not having
that much cotrole or even having users have root access, but to some new person
at home thinking of switching to Red Hat it is a lot to learn from the get go
and will frustrate people rather than winning them over. Hell install Slackware
and you are forced to learn or sink, but most people won't go that route. They
will buy a Mac or reinstall Windoze.

Comment 3 Barry K. Nathan 2003-04-27 04:43:19 UTC
> rpm -e mplayer.somenumbers.somearch.rpm

Fred, try just "rpm -e mplayer.somenumbers" -- drop the ".somearch.rpm". I can't
remember "rpm -e foobar.version.arch.rpm" *ever* working. (Actually, that would
be a nice enhancement to have.)

Comment 4 Paul Nasrat 2005-09-29 19:13:03 UTC
Package selection/installation/removal is being redone for FC5.  The mechanism
to find/remove packages for the end user graphically will be provided.

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