Bug 855930 - kde-runtime too many dependencies (on a GNOME desktop)
kde-runtime too many dependencies (on a GNOME desktop)
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: kde-runtime (Show other bugs)
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Reported: 2012-09-10 12:12 EDT by Gerald Pfeifer
Modified: 2013-08-01 07:58 EDT (History)
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Output of yum install digikam (24.12 KB, text/plain)
2012-09-10 12:12 EDT, Gerald Pfeifer
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Description Gerald Pfeifer 2012-09-10 12:12:05 EDT
Created attachment 611484 [details]
Output of yum install digikam

Description of problem:
Running a GNOME desktop, I added digikam to a system of mine.  What
I found is that digikam also pulls in
 - atlas (a math library),
 - perl,
 - htdig (a full search engine),
 - libgfortran,
 - openslp,
 - udisks and many others.

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How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. yum install digikam
2. Observe the output (also attached)
Comment 1 Gerald Pfeifer 2012-09-10 12:13:48 EDT
Note this aspect:

  Total size: 138 M
  Total download size: 134 M
  Installed size: 403 M

400MB are quite heavy.
Comment 2 Rex Dieter 2012-09-10 13:58:12 EDT
Note most (or all) of what you mention comes from kdelibs/kde-runtime, which is, as the name suggests, a standard set of runtime libraries (and dependencies) that most non-trivial kde applications expect to be present for full functionality.

It may indeed come as a bit of a shock if you install but a single kde  application (like digikam) on a box that has no kde applications yet.

some of the deps you mention are direct digikam dependencies, including:
atlas (and libgfortran)

That's not to say that kde-runtime couldn't be pruned *some* perhaps, but I'd venture there's not a significant amount fat to trim.
Comment 3 Gerald Pfeifer 2012-10-28 18:28:24 EDT
Thanks for the background, Rex.  I understand the situation in general
(I think), but am wondering whether some of the dependencies could be
made optional?
Comment 4 Rex Dieter 2012-10-29 00:45:13 EDT
you'll have to be more specific, if you're asking about making particular items optional. otherwise, in general, that really is the generally accepted minimal runtime for fully-featured kde applications.
Comment 5 Gerald Pfeifer 2012-10-29 05:41:45 EDT
I'm not so deep in KDE packaging, but some proposals:

1. htdig.  I don't have this on my openSUSE system, and Digikam works
   just fine there, for example.  (This comes from kde-runtime.)

2. kdepimlibs.  On other distros this is only required for kdepim4-runtime
   and kopete and I could remove it there when I just tested it (and still
   have a working Digikam).

3. openslp.

4. atlas.  Not present on my openSUSE system, for example.

5. Is the whole perl stack really necessary?  I assume these are just
   some scripts in Digikam using them, not the main app?  (Something
   that could be broken out, as subpackage of Digikam?)
Comment 6 Lukáš Tinkl 2012-10-29 06:57:30 EDT
Comment 7 Rex Dieter 2012-10-29 07:10:24 EDT
1.. htdig:  (used to be?) needed for searching application handbooks, ie, help -> digikam handbook

2. there are several libraries kde-runtime uses from kdepimlibs,  either those distros have kde-runtime split somehow or a not-fully-featured kde-runtime.  I'll look more into it.

3. openslp is only 130k, not going to worry about that one (not worth it)

4. digikam uses this directly on fedora, instead of clapack

5. yes, kde requires perl

Come to think of it, I had been considering making kio-smb support optional (ie, avoid dragging in libsmbclient and friends)
Comment 8 Rex Dieter 2012-10-29 09:19:38 EDT
I looked at things closer:

1.  htdig could be made optional (ie, installed by default, but not required via hard depenencies)

2.  looks like KDEPIMLIBS_KXMLRPCCLIENT_LIBRARY is pulled in only for drkonqi, so I'll consider packaging drkonqi in a subpkg (and treat it similarly as htdig above).  this is probably what your "other" distros have done.

3.  investigate implications of packaging kio-smb separately as well.
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Comment 10 Gerald Pfeifer 2013-07-06 14:01:12 EDT
I can confirm that htdig no longer is  hard dependency.  Thanks!

Rex, can you indicate whether you or others made other changes
and then close this as RESOLVED?  Or are there steps you'll still
want to take?
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