Description of problem:
kswapd using 100%cpu for extended period on i686 kvm vhost - rawhide
top - 13:32:16 up 2 days, 15:55, 2 users, load average: 1.05, 1.03, 1.13
Tasks: 99 total, 3 running, 96 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 0.0 us, 99.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 0.0 id, 0.0 wa, 0.3 hi, 0.3 si, 0.3 st
KiB Mem: 1019468 total, 813236 used, 206232 free, 42276 buffers
KiB Swap: 2064380 total, 3216 used, 2061164 free, 388560 cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
25 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 98.4 0.0 2681:19 kswapd0
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Seen more than one time, but now I can't make it happen with just a reboot.
Steps to Reproduce:
2..... not sure....
100%cpu - vhost consumes more than fair share from parent host
<5% cpu when idling
This bug has also been seen by others:
My usage today (over the last hour or so I've been watching it) on an x86_64 laptop with over 1GB of free mem (please look at the lkml posting to see what they patched to fix this problem):
Linux toshiba 3.7.0-0.rc0.git5.2.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 10 21:40:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
top - 09:27:24 up 3 days, 22:44, 10 users, load average: 2.05, 1.83, 1.78
Tasks: 224 total, 2 running, 222 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 0.8 us, 26.2 sy, 0.0 ni, 71.8 id, 0.3 wa, 0.6 hi, 0.2 si, 0.0 st
KiB Mem: 3952540 total, 2810540 used, 1142000 free, 3680 buffers
KiB Swap: 4095996 total, 691856 used, 3404140 free, 133020 cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
41 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 97.6 0.0 3951:28 kswapd0
31192 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 3.3 0.0 1:01.91 kworker/0:2
4201 root 20 0 294m 137m 4284 S 1.3 3.6 81:15.03 X
4356 kevinm 20 0 583m 8812 4664 S 1.3 0.2 2:33.43 Terminal
8023 kevinm 20 0 1184m 360m 21m S 1.3 9.3 1228:39 thunderbird
31541 kevinm 20 0 15700 1584 1056 R 1.0 0.0 0:10.60 top
22750 kevinm 20 0 807m 76m 18m S 0.7 2.0 9:46.60 chrome
31201 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.7 0.0 0:11.68 kworker/1:2
22846 kevinm 20 0 954m 43m 7968 S 0.3 1.1 1:03.76 chrome
23013 kevinm 20 0 1088m 152m 16m S 0.3 4.0 4:09.33 chrome
23021 kevinm 20 0 1093m 153m 18m S 0.3 4.0 4:26.71 chrome
23130 kevinm 20 0 983m 52m 10m S 0.3 1.4 2:02.83 chrome
23258 kevinm 20 0 1067m 75m 10m S 0.3 1.9 2:11.97 chrome
1 root 20 0 48572 1388 1144 S 0.0 0.0 0:07.42 systemd
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.43 kthreadd
I still see the same problem with the latest rawhide kernel.
It takes a few hours until kswapd0 starts to eat CPU, then after a short period my machine is frozen completely (no network, keyboard, mouse). The same repeats after a forced reboot. "swapoff -a" does not help. Half of the memory is free.
Linux sparta 3.7.0-0.rc2.git3.1.fc19.i686 #1 SMP Thu Oct 25 20:11:21 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Waiting to see a kernel in rawhide without this critical problem.
If anyone here wants to help getting this fixed see:
I'm building a vanilla kernel images with these two patches now. I anyone wants to try them let me know.
(In reply to comment #4)
> I'm building a vanilla kernel images with these two patches now. I anyone
> wants to try them let me know.
Find them at http://thl.fedorapeople.org/kswap-issue/ (x86-64 only)
*** Bug 875103 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
This is the whole thread:
I believe there are going to be two reverts as a result of this. Once they go in, I'll ask people to report on the issue with a kernel that contains them.
I seem to be able to get this to happen pretty consistently run a yum update and rsync at the same time.
Happened again last night for me with:
on a kvm vhost with 1 cpu, 1G ram.
When it happens the machine is inaccessible by ssh and console, and has to be forced off and restarted.
Seems to be load related, "yum updates" often trigger it.
3.7-rc6 has one of the reverts included.
The other is still being discussed upstream with a possible different patch being included instead of a revert.
So far things are looking better. kswapd0 has only used about 6 seconds of cpu over 3 hours. I was doing some stuff that typically triggered the issue, though not the worst case.
Do you think the issue with kswapd0 eating 100% CPU after several suspend/resume cycles is the same as this bug?
I only see it after the 3rd or 4th resume over the night, and it's happening very reliably. I'm pretty sure there is no I/O activity going on.
I'm on FC16, and I see it with these kernels:
There still might be some issue. My kswapd0 process has accumalated 97 minutes of cpu time in less than a day. However I don't know was happening when the cpu resource was being used at high rates. The case where I was seeing it before doesn't seem to be triggering it.
I've had kernel-3.7.0-0.rc6.git0.1.i686, and x86_64, running for the last day without problems, but when I did a "yum update" this morning the problem re-occurred on both vhosts.
The i686 vhost is still accessible from the console, and top shows kswapd0 at 100% cpu.
The x86_64 vhost locks up completely and is inaccessible even from the console.
I build a kernel with the patch from
That's the combination of 1 + 2, which Mel mentions in
(the patch "1" is the one that was reverted for rc6, hence if didn't have to apply that anymore)
Find the kernel rpms for testing at http://thl.fedorapeople.org/kswap-issue/
Still getting lockups with
(from link in Comment #15)
(In reply to comment #16)
> Still getting lockups with
> (from link in Comment #15)
I saw problems (from some point on everything went slower until the system was barely usable) here today, too, after running kernel-3.7.0-0.rc6.git0.1.vanilla.mainline.knurd.tmp.1.fc18.x86_64.rpm fine for a few hours. A kernel without patch "2" from Mel had started to show problems after only 2 hours, but maybe I've just been just really unlucky there and the problem was the same.
Anyway, due to above problems I built and uploaded kernel-3.7.0-0.rc6.git0.1.vanilla.mainline.knurd.tmp.3.fc18.x86_64.rpm now, which contains the patch "3" that Mel mentions in
Running it here now on one of the machines where I see the problem.
(In reply to comment #17)
> Anyway, due to above problems I built and uploaded
To be precise: I uploaded it to http://thl.fedorapeople.org/kswap-issue/ again
It would be very good if you reported your results to the upstream thread. I know Mel is waiting for feedback on which approach to take. "1" is a given as it already is in Linus' tree, but 2 vs. 3 is still out-standing afaik.
For my rawhide system kswapd took another big jump in cpu time (over 400 minutes now, when it was a bit over 100 yesterday). However, I haven't noticed this happening while using the system, so I am not sure what is triggering the start (and end) of the high cpu use. yum updates with rsync running don't appear to set it off any more.
Today I was able to trigger kswapd0 into high cpu usage on the i686 vhost
with kernel-3.7.0-0.rc6.git1.1.fc19.i686, by running a build and a yum update
are the same time. On the i686 the cpu doesn't lockup and the machine is still accessible.
A similar load did *not* trigger the problem on the x86_64 vhost with kernel-3.7.0-0.rc6.git0.1.vanilla.mainline.knurd.tmp.3.fc18.x86_64 (from Comment #18)
Not conclusive, but a good sign.
I just saw kswapd0 running using 93% of a cpu. It didn't last all that long though. I had two rsyncs and an md sync running and a couple of large memory processes mostly idle.
(In reply to comment #22)
> I just saw kswapd0 running using 93% of a cpu. It didn't last all that long
> though. I had two rsyncs and an md sync running and a couple of large memory
> processes mostly idle.
Noting which kernel explicitly would be helpful. There are several out there.
I'm still using 3.7.0-0.rc6.git0.1.fc19.i686.PAE. But I'll be switching to 3.7.0-0.rc6.git1.1.fc19.i686.PAE (from the rawhide nodebug repo) this afternoon.
(In reply to comment #24)
> I'm still using 3.7.0-0.rc6.git0.1.fc19.i686.PAE. But I'll be switching to
> 3.7.0-0.rc6.git1.1.fc19.i686.PAE (from the rawhide nodebug repo) this
OK, thank you. Note that those kernels only have the initial revert that went into -rc6 and not the other patches in question that Thorsten has built kernels for. At this point, I wouldn't expect kswapd issues to be totally gone on rawhide kernels.
3.7.0-0.rc6.git1.1.fc19.i686.PAE (from rawhide nodebug repo) does in fact exhibit this problem. I saw kswapd0 ruuning up a lot of time while using yum without much else going on.
100% cpu kswapd0 happened within 6 hours on the i686 vhost using kernel-3.7.0-0.rc6.git1.5.fc19.i686. I don't know what the trigger was, but this time I don't think it was yum.
The x86_64 version of the same kernel, running for the same time, is not yet showing any problems.
.... kernel-3.7.0-0.rc6.git1.5.fc19.x86_64 just crashed after a yum update.
Just FYI & to make sure everybody is up2date:
Mel in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/90502 pointed out: "There is also a potential accounting bug that could be affecting this."
From the description in https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/20/613 it looks a lot like that's the problem on one of the two machines where I saw VM problems. Building a patched kernel right now and will give it a try tomorrow.
On the second machine (the one where I definitely saw the problem that started this bug) I'm running a kernel with the "riskier" patch right now (the one in 3.7.0-0.rc6.git0.1.vanilla.mainline.knurd.tmp.3.fc18.x86_64.rpm) and everything seems fine so far.
It is a month after my last report (comment #3). kswapd still pretty quickly starts to use 100% of CPU and I am forced to reboot daily. Tried with all rawhide i686 kernels available, including the latest 3.7.0-0.rc6.git2.1.fc19.i686.
Starting with rc6 kernels, sometimes there is a situation when kswapd uses 100% CPU, but still allows other processes to work relatively ok for a short period (hours). But usually this just makes X drawing and events to work impossibly slow and eventually freezes everything, just like a month ago. I don't use desktops. Just fvwm, xterms and firefox with several tabs. I do "yum update" daily that may or may not trigger.the problem.
If this kernel bug is not solved in a week, can please somebody provide an alternative rawhide i686 kernel (possibly with the kernel snapshot from 2 months ago)? Thank you.
You should be able to use f18 kernels in rawhide without a problem.
(In reply to comment #30)
> If this kernel bug is not solved in a week, can please somebody provide an
> alternative rawhide i686 kernel (possibly with the kernel snapshot from 2
> months ago)? Thank you.
If you want to help getting this solved it would be great if you could try these:
Mel afaics is still waiting for feedback how to properly solve the issue and you input could be what's needed to make a decision, as it seems you still can reproduce it quite easily. These kernels contain the patches "2" and "3" he mentions on http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/87193/focus=89504
(Patch 1 was merged a few days ago; and these kernels contain a patch for a different, but related issue, too)
P.S.: For other kernel variants follow the links on these pages
No luck, The problem reoccurred within 24hours on i686 vhost with:
I was not able to trigger the problem on x86_64 vhost with a similar load (build + yum) with:
Switching to the "safe" kernels now ...
FYI, Mel's "safer" patch made it to mainline a few hours ago:
Will likely be part of the next rawhide build
Good...I'll just belatedly add that I not seen any problems after running
for over 24 hours with my usual loads.
Running 3.7.0-0.rc6.git1.4.knurd.mel.safe.1.fc19.i686 for 3 days without seeing this problem. There were some stack traces shown on boot however. Will try the next rawhide kernel.
In reply to comment #34)
> FYI, Mel's "safer" patch made it to mainline a few hours ago:
> Will likely be part of the next rawhide build
And it looks like it will be removed again soon. For details see
If anybody here wants to help testing the solution that Mel proposed in the latter mail, then simply grab kernels from this koji scratch build and give them a try: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4737301
Note, these kernels do no contain all of those patches that Fedora normally adds; but they should work fine on f18 and f19
(In reply to comment #37)
> In reply to comment #34)
> > FYI, Mel's "safer" patch made it to mainline a few hours ago:
> > http://git.kernel.org/linus/82b212f40059bffd6808c07266a942d444d5558a
> > Will likely be part of the next rawhide build
> And it looks like it will be removed again soon. For details see
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/90911/ and
There is a kernel currently building that additionally contains the patch Mel mentioned in http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/90911/focus=91038
Should be ready in an hour or so (depending on the load of the builders):
Re: Comment #38. No luck.
The problem of 100%cpu usage by kswapd0 still exists in kernel-3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.2.fc18.x86_64
The problem reoccurred within 12 hours.
After about a day and a half my kswapd has only accumulated 39 seconds of CPU time. This is with the 3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.fc19.i686.PAE kernel from the rahide nodebug repo.
Correction to Comment #39
Sorry, that should have said: kernel-3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.2.fc18.i686
The x86_64 host hasn't shown any problem yet.
John, could you read http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/90911/focus=91153 please?
Quoting one part:
> As the system is still responsive when this happens, any chance he
> could capture /proc/zoneinfo and /proc/vmstat when kswapd goes
> Or even run perf record -a -g sleep 5; perf report > kswapd.txt?
> Preferrably with this patch applied, to rule out faulty lowmem
I'm building a kernel with that patch if you want to give it a try
(In reply to comment #42)
> I'm building a kernel with that patch if you want to give it a try
Find it at http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4743064
Since Comment #41, I did not see the problem reoccur using kernel-3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.2.fc18.i686 (~20hours).
Re Comment #43, I've now installed and booted:
and will monitor today. I apologise that I am leaving town for a week this afternoon, so I only have about 10 hours for this to happen,
Is the syntax of:
perf record -a -g sleep 5; perf report > kswapd.txt
correct? It gives me:
callchain: Unknown -g option value: sleep
Johannes Weiner asked:
> This requires somebody to wake up kswapd regularly, though and from
> his report it's not quite clear to me if kswapd gets stuck or just has
> really high CPU usage while the system is still under load.
I suspect that the problem is triggered by high load (yum update, and/or a build job), but once triggered the kswapd0 @ 100% cpu continues indefinitely even after all the loads gave gone.
Created attachment 654960 [details]
/proc/vmstat while kswad0 at 100%cpu
Created attachment 654961 [details]
/proc/zoneinfo with kswapd0 at 100% cpu
Well that didn't take very long...
Using hernel-3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.3.fc18.i686 on a kvm i686 vhost, I did a "make -j" and that triggered the problem (my normal scheduled builds don't use -j, so perhaps they don't trigger the problem as easily.)
I captured /proc/zoneinfo and /proc/vmstat after the build had completed and the system was nominally idle. I've attached them to this report.
I'll leave the system in its current state and run the perf later .. if someone can help me with the correct syntax?
Created attachment 654977 [details]
kswapd.txt output from perf command with kswapd0 at 100% cpu
(In reply to comment #44)
> Is the syntax of:
> perf record -a -g sleep 5; perf report > kswapd.txt
> correct? It gives me:
> callchain: Unknown -g option value: sleep
Seems the behaviour of "-g" changed. From a quick look at the options I'm not sure how to exactly emulate the old behaviour with the new syntax.
-g, --call-graph do call-graph (stack chain/backtrace) recording
-g, --call-graph <mode[,dump_size]>
do call-graph (stack chain/backtrace) recording: [fp]
Not sure, maybe as a workaround try to use the older perf (the one from the F18 repos, not the one build together with the kernel)
Apparently "-g" can take a string paramater, so it was confused about "sleep"
Reordering -a -g seemed to work:
[root@rawhide ~]# perf record -g -a sleep 5; perf report > kswapd.txt
[ perf record: Woken up 9 times to write data ]
[ perf record: Captured and wrote 2.179 MB perf.data (~95183 samples) ]
no symbols found in /usr/bin/sleep, maybe install a debug package?
/usr/lib/libc-2.16.90.so was updated (is prelink enabled?). Restart the long running apps that use it!
I tried a couple of times, but have not been able to trigger the problem on the x86_64 vhost using kernel-3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.3.fc18.x86_64
In fact, I haven't seen the problem on x86_64 for some time. It used to have different character anyway - it used to SEGV and lock up the machine completely.
So, maybe the remaining bug is i686-only ?
Would it help to see if I can trigger the bug in the PAE kernel?
Not conclusive, but I tried multiple times with my "make -j" builds and concurrent "yum updates", and still can't trigger the problem on the PAE kernel.
I've no idea if this could possibly be relevant. Its just that Bruno was reporting different symptoms using PAE (e.g. in Comment #40).
I went back to the non-PAE, i686 kernel and rechecked that the same load will re-trigger the problem relatively easily, and it does.
So, AFAICT. the problem only exists on i686 non-PAE kernels.
Not on i686 with-PAE, or x86_64
I had seen it on a PAE machine, but I have been running 3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.fc19.i686.PAE continuously for 2 and 1/2 days no and kswapd has only accumulated 1 minute and 5 seconds of CPU time. So the patches in that kernel seem to have fixed the problem for me.
(In reply to comment #54)
> I had seen it on a PAE machine, but I have been running
> 3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.fc19.i686.PAE continuously for 2 and 1/2 days no and
> kswapd has only accumulated 1 minute and 5 seconds of CPU time. So the
> patches in that kernel seem to have fixed the problem for me.
Bruno, the patch that likely helped your case was reverted last night in mainline (http://git.kernel.org/linus/a50915394f1fc02c2861d3b7ce7014788aa5066e ), as it had been foreseeable already; see Comment 37
Anyway, seems Hannes thx to Johns data was able to find a likely reason; see
I'm building a kernel right now that contains the new patch from Hannes.
(In reply to comment #55)
> I'm building a kernel right now that contains the new patch from Hannes.
Find it at http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4746265
Note, that kernel doesn't contain the patch mentioned in Comment 42 -- I assume that patch was just meant to make debbuging easier
I just installed kernel-3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.4.fc18.i686
and ran my usual load that triggers the problem. OK so far. I'll check again in 24hours, but looking good so far.
I am seeing bursts of kswapd activity again with 3.7.0-0.rc7.git3.2.fc19.i686.PAE from the rawhide nodebug repo. I think this kernel likely has the set of patches that were planned for the 3.7 release.
I am seeing kswapd running at 90+% of a cpu while doing a yum update and an rsync.
top - 08:23:14 up 9:27, 8 users, load average: 2.62, 2.62, 2.06
Tasks: 197 total, 2 running, 194 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie
%Cpu0 : 1.9 us, 28.8 sy, 0.0 ni, 0.0 id, 69.2 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st
%Cpu1 : 3.6 us, 89.1 sy, 0.0 ni, 5.5 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 1.8 si, 0.0 st
KiB Mem: 2065708 total, 1894136 used, 171572 free, 382916 buffers
KiB Swap: 10482612 total, 25584 used, 10457028 free, 872336 cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
30 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 93.8 0.0 20:36.94 kswapd0
5773 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 5.3 0.0 0:05.50 kworker/0:2
31279 root 20 0 256m 236m 8296 D 5.3 11.7 4:54.71 yum
(In reply to comment #58)
> I am seeing bursts of kswapd activity again with
> 3.7.0-0.rc7.git3.2.fc19.i686.PAE from the rawhide nodebug repo. I think this
> kernel likely has the set of patches that were planned for the 3.7 release.
> I am seeing kswapd running at 90+% of a cpu while doing a yum update and an
Could you give the one from http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4746265 a try and see if it helps?
I can't try it until tonight as the machine won't reboot (successfully) without someone being at the console.
Debug kernels slow down my disk I/O a lot. I don't know if that will have any impact on being able to trigger kswapd to go cpu bound.
(In reply to comment #60)
> Debug kernels slow down my disk I/O a lot. I don't know if that will have
> any impact on being able to trigger kswapd to go cpu bound.
My kernels are similar to release/nodebug kernels, so only basic debugging options enabled
I've now been running both
for over 24hours with no evidence of problems with kswapd
So far with 3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.4.fc18.i686.PAE kswapd is only getting small amounts of time when the system has lots of memory and cpu use. With the previous kernel I was trying I wasn't reliably triggering the kswapd high cpu usage, so I am not claiming victory yet.
TWIMC: I've rebased my test kernels to rc8, which contains some of the patches that are in 3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.4.fc18
Find 3.7.0-0.rc8.git0.1.van.main.knurd.kswap.4.fc18 here(¹):
It now contains only these two patches:
John, would be good if you could give it a try, as the the former of those two patches was not in 3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.4.fc18; it shouldn't matter much (see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/90911/focus=91425 ), but might be good to know
(¹) sorry for the confusion, forgot to do a s/kswap.4/kswap.5/ :-/
(Sorry for the delay. I'm on vacation in the UK this week.)
First, the 3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.4.fc18 were still looking good (i.e. no kswapd0 lockups) after ~48hours.
I've just rebooted into:
and run my load test that used to trigger the problem.
No problems so far. I'll check back again in ~24hours.
One other observation. When watching the previous kernel with "top", I didn't see any lockups, but I did see kswapd0 at 30% cpu at times. With this latest kernel I didn't see kswapd0 above 2%. Both i686 and x86_64 were similar in this respect. I haven't attempted to repeat this test to be 100% certain about this observation.
I am now at a bit over 2 and 1/2 days and kswapd has accumulated 1 minute 53 seconds of CPU time with 3.7.0-0.rc7.git1.2.van.main.knurd.kswap.4.fc18.i686.PAE. This seems reasonable.
still ok after ~24hours
I just reran my load test, and this time I did notice kswapd0 briefly at 24%cpu,
so I suspect my observation in Comment #65 should just be ignored.
Running 3.7.0-0.rc8.git0.1.van.main.knurd.kswap.4.fc18.i686 for 4 days, no problem so far, the run time of kswapd0 is 0:00.28.
Prior to this, ran the latest to that moment rawhide kernel 3.7.0-0.rc7.git3.1.fc19.i686 and easily got the kswapd0 problem.
3.7.0-1.fc19.i686.PAE is looking good. I have accumulated 31 seconds of CPU time for kswapd in 42 hours of uptime.
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