It would be nice to have grub2 on cloud images (at least where pv-grub isn't used) so that we're consistent with the "normal" non virtualized Fedora. I notice that in F18, /boot/grub2/themes/system/ from fedora-logos is 5.6MB, 4MB of which is from the single bootsplash image. I removed the fedora-logos package manually, and grub seems to not break if this is missing? Can we get an alternate, tiny theme that won't pull this in? We could then put fedora-logos in the standard package set so it's installed by default -- or even in @core, where it would be installed by default but could be removed specifically, without breaking deps.
generic-logos should perhaps be suitable as provider of system-logos for that usecase.
(In reply to comment #1) > generic-logos should perhaps be suitable as provider of system-logos for > that usecase. Much, much smaller. But it happens that it's working just fine with *no* logos, so I'm not seeing the need for the requirement at all.
I guess most Fedora packages are very useful even without some of the dependencies. But Fedora packages should in general list enough dependencies to make sure that everything in the package works as intended. From that point of view it is right that grub2-tools requires system-logos. But in my opinion /boot/grub2/themes/system shouldn't be in grub2-tools. The dependency to system-logos should thus also be in some other (optional) package. It should perhaps all be in fedora-logos. I guess a graphical boot with fedora-logos missing would require user interaction when booting. I guess your cloud machine is 'headless' and thus doesn't boot with graphics and thus gives biased test results.
(In reply to comment #3) > I guess a graphical boot with fedora-logos missing would require user > interaction when booting. I guess your cloud machine is 'headless' and thus > doesn't boot with graphics and thus gives biased test results. I'm booting with KVM locally right now and looking at the console, so it's not completely headless. It's true that it's not an X-based boot. There are no errors, just no graphic. That seems like a pretty reasonable fallback. We could even put fedora-logos in @core, so it's installed by default but could be intentionally de-selected for the perfectly valid "biased" cases.
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Can we revisit this? Extlinux is increasingly frustrating on the cloud images. And, now we have weak dependencies, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:WeakDependencies, this seems like a good candidate.
As noted above, package is perfectly functional without logos even in default config and when you have a screen which could theoretically show logos. Please change to "Recommends" rather than "Requires".
Hi, Any progress on moving from Requires to Recommends ? Dusty
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I believe this was addressed (by dropping entirely, not changing to recommends) in this commit: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grub2/c/ecef1ed7b50ed05b65574c8b8815d7ae66e5a0a9 The changelogs (git and rpm) don't mention it, so maybe this was an accident. In any case, seems addressed now.