Bug 1554988

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:FontsPolicy requires that these be added as OPTIONAL, not MANDATORY unless you have the approval of the relevant localization team. Please provide a reference to this approval before take any action here.

(In reply to Stephen Gallagher from comment #1)
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:FontsPolicy requires that these be
> added as OPTIONAL, not MANDATORY unless you have the approval of the
> relevant localization team. Please provide a reference to this approval
> before take any action here.

Hi Stephen
What are steps to get approval from localization team. Mail from Localization team  member or team leader? Please suggest so that I can get approval from Panjabi team.

Thanks
AA

Yes, please reach out to the Punjabi localization team. Contact information is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Punjabi_Team

It will be good for users if below google fonts will be default fonts for Punjabi language. Please do needful to make these fonts default for Punjabi language.

google-noto-sans-gurmukhi-fonts
google-noto-sans-gurmukhi-ui-fonts


A S Alam has already shared features of these fonts as better glyphs and better support than current default fonts. So end user will have good experience using these fonts.


Thanks,
JassyPhulewala

Thanks Stephen for adding me in cc.

Aman and Jaswinder long time Fedora representative for Punjabi language. 

Aman can you help us with some images or difference between existing Lohit Vs Google Noto before making this change. It will be helpful for better understanding changing this.  

We can make Lohit as an Optional and Google Noto as a default for Punjabi language after this. Also we need to change priority of fontconf for respective font package.    

We recently changed default fonts for Sinhla from lklug to Google Noto after community inputs.   (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1450802)

Created attachment 1523020 [details]
Screenshot of Lohit and Noto Fonts

Simple compare shows that noto looks better to End user or customer when compare to Lohit.
Hope this will help.

(In reply to Pravin Satpute from comment #5)
> Thanks Stephen for adding me in cc.
> 
> Aman and Jaswinder long time Fedora representative for Punjabi language. 
> 
> Aman can you help us with some images or difference between existing Lohit
> Vs Google Noto before making this change. It will be helpful for better
> understanding changing this.  
> 
> We can make Lohit as an Optional and Google Noto as a default for Punjabi
> language after this. Also we need to change priority of fontconf for
> respective font package.    
> 

Pravin is font guru, we need your expertise here.

Thanks for your help.

> We recently changed default fonts for Sinhla from lklug to Google Noto after
> community inputs.   (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1450802)

Thanks Aman :)

    From image Noto looks better, only issue with Noto is upstream does not provide .sfd or other source file, Need to wait for upstream to fix bugs. On the other hand, we have not fixed anything in Lohit Gurmukhi from last few years. 

    So we can go ahead with this change and see how it works and community response for it.
 
   Following are the steps.
 
   1. Need to change Lohit gurmukhi fontconfig priority from 65-0 to 66
   2. Need to change googole-noto punjabi fonts priority to 65-0
   3. Need to submit PR for https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/issues with bug reference.
 
  I am sure, soon Fedora i18n team will take over it.

(In reply to Pravin Satpute from comment #8)
> Thanks Aman :)
> 
>     From image Noto looks better, only issue with Noto is upstream does not
> provide .sfd or other source file, Need to wait for upstream to fix bugs. On
> the other hand, we have not fixed anything in Lohit Gurmukhi from last few
> years. 
> 
>     So we can go ahead with this change and see how it works and community
> response for it.
>  
>    Following are the steps.
>  
>    1. Need to change Lohit gurmukhi fontconfig priority from 65-0 to 66
>    2. Need to change googole-noto punjabi fonts priority to 65-0
>    3. Need to submit PR for https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/issues with bug
> reference.
>  
>   I am sure, soon Fedora i18n team will take over it.

Hey Parvin

Do you want me to file bug to complete step 1 and 2?

Thanks
Alam

My bad.
Once this is fixed in Lohit and Google noto fonts we can report issue for comps at https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/issues get it fixed there itself.  No need bug in Fedora comps. 
Moving this bug from comps to google-noto-fonts.

@Aman please report bug for lohit-gurmukhi-fonts.

It may be too late to make such changes in f30 perhaps. IMHO we should have certain Changes proposal for this to let users pay attention on this and get feedback/testing etc? also need to make sure if new fonts is available on ISO too. so I suppose it may be good to postpone to f31 or so.

At least we could add "Recommends: google-noto-sans-gurmukhi-fonts" to f30 langpacks-pa.  I filed bug 1699210 for that.

Sorry for taking long time to fix this. This has been fixed in F31+ now. The google-noto-sans-gurmkukhi-fonts is default font for Punjabi language.

@Parag,
No worries for delay. That is good news. Kudos!!