Bug 177823
Summary: | thunderbird: icon not showing | ||||||||||||
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Product: | [Fedora] Fedora | Reporter: | Andy Burns <fedora> | ||||||||||
Component: | thunderbird | Assignee: | Christopher Aillon <caillon> | ||||||||||
Status: | CLOSED RAWHIDE | QA Contact: | |||||||||||
Severity: | medium | Docs Contact: | |||||||||||
Priority: | medium | ||||||||||||
Version: | rawhide | CC: | arequipeno, bugs+fedora, bugzilla, chabotc, ch.nolte, davidc, d.bz-redhat, dtimms, fedora, flaks, fortran, list, matthias.kloth, mikelann, mitr, mwc, obijuan, olivier.lelain, peter, petr, phhs80, pierre-bugzilla, raj.khem, rdieter, scott, simon, stefan.hoelldampf, tjarls, treyvan, yatiohi | ||||||||||
Target Milestone: | --- | Keywords: | EasyFix, Regression | ||||||||||
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Hardware: | All | ||||||||||||
OS: | Linux | ||||||||||||
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Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | Bug Fix | |||||||||||
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Last Closed: | 2006-09-08 20:14:47 UTC | Type: | --- | ||||||||||
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Bug Blocks: | 150223 | ||||||||||||
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Description
Andy Burns
2006-01-14 23:13:06 UTC
Fresh install from rawhide 2006-01-23, still no proper icon in gnome window list applet, or thunderbird window itself, ok on gnome menu Similar whith today release (Thunderbird 1.5 20060128) thunderbird-1.5-2 Raising the priority as the lack of a quickly identifiable icon in the task list does make it difficult to identify the "anonymous" thunderbird window while multi-tasking. Me too here post: I get the generic X app icon on KDE (FC5T2) I am seeing the box without the ICON for both the alt-tab switching and with the windows list. Thought I'd better investigate a few of the "obvious" potential reasons ... $ sh -x thunderbird + MOZ_LIB_DIR=/usr/lib + '[' -x /usr/lib64/thunderbird-1.5/thunderbird-bin ']' + MOZ_LIB_DIR=/usr/lib64 + MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib64/thunderbird-1.5 + MRE_HOME=/usr/lib64/thunderbird-1.5 + export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME MRE_HOME + MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/lib64/thunderbird-1.5/thunderbird + MOZ_CLIENT_PROGRAM='/usr/lib64/thunderbird-1.5/thunderbird -remote' + MOZARGS= ++ check_running ++ /usr/lib64/thunderbird-1.5/thunderbird -remote 'ping()' ++ RETURN_VAL=2 ++ '[' 2 -eq 2 ']' ++ echo 0 ++ return 0 + ALREADY_RUNNING=0 + '[' -z '' ']' + '[' 0 -eq 1 ']' + rm_shit + find /home/andy/.thunderbird -name XUL.mfasl + xargs rm -f + exec /usr/lib64/thunderbird-1.5/thunderbird $ cat /usr/share/applications/mozilla-thunderbird.desktop [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Thunderbird Email GenericName=Email Comment=Send and Receive Email Exec=thunderbird Icon=thunderbird.png Terminal=false Type=Application StartupWMClass=Thunderbird-bin X-Desktop-File-Install-Version=0.10 Categories=Network;Application;X-Fedora; $ locate thunderbird.png /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/apps/thunderbird.png /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/thunderbird.png /usr/share/pixmaps/thunderbird.png ]$ ls -l /usr/share/pixmaps/thunderbird.png -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21835 May 13 2005 /usr/share/pixmaps/thunderbird.png $ file /usr/share/pixmaps/thunderbird.png /usr/share/pixmaps/thunderbird.png: PNG image data, 152 x 152, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced $ gthumb /usr/share/pixmaps/thunderbird.png <<looks good, proper mozilla thunderbird icon>> $ cat /usr/share/applications/redhat-email.desktop [Desktop Entry] Name=Email ... Comment=Send email and manage your schedule ... Exec=launchmail Icon=redhat-email.png NoDisplay=true Terminal=0 Type=Application Encoding=UTF-8 Categories=X-Red-Hat-Base;X-Red-Hat-Base-Only;Network;Application; StartupNotify=True $ which launchmail /usr/bin/launchmail $ ls /usr/share/pixmaps/redhat-email.png /usr/share/pixmaps/redhat-email.png $ file /usr/share/pixmaps/redhat-email.png /usr/share/pixmaps/redhat-email.png: symbolic link to `../icons/Bluecurve/48x48/apps/redhat-email.png' $ file /usr/share/pixmaps/../icons/Bluecurve/48x48/apps/redhat-email.png /usr/share/pixmaps/../icons/Bluecurve/48x48/apps/redhat-email.png: symbolic link to `icon-email.png' $ ls -l /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/apps/icon-email.png -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2642 Feb 1 20:17 /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/apps/icon-email.png $ file /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/apps/icon-email.png /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/apps/icon-email.png: PNG image data, 48 x 48, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced $ gthumb /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/apps/icon-email.png <<looks good, redhat envelope and stamp icon>> /me scratches head ... One strange thing I noticed about starting thunderbird, the ICON is in the window list during initial loading of thunderbird. The ICON turns to default no icon status shortly after the throbber release the icon. Hmm, still a problem with FC5T3 + pup-dates @ 2006-02-27. Other app icons are normal. Andy's analysis suggests he may be on 64 bit. I am seeing this with i386 install. This is actually intended by upstream -- the Thunderbird icon at small sizes looks bad because it is so complex -- and they would rather distribute no icon than a bad looking one. Seems an odd decision to me, on windows at least, the 16x16(?) thunderbird icon looks equally as good as the firefox icon, the FX icon is instantly recognisable on Linux at that size but thunderbird with this stock icon "submarines" out of view :-( Judging by the number of "me too" replies on this bug is it worth trying to persuade upstream to change their behaviour, or is there a hidden "display_generic_icon_below_x_pixels" pref? Created attachment 125286 [details]
composed screen showing the 3x dodgy icons
Just to ensure that we are talking about the same thing, see the 1000 words.
You'll notice that the task-selector bar @ 32x32 (i guess) also has the
problematic icon, when it needn't have it.
Two solutions:
. use a 16x16 crafted icon rather than trying to scale a big one down; there is
nothing wrong with the one displayed in the gnome menu ? It's beautiful ;-)
. use at least a mail-like icon eg redhat/gnome (the one in the launcher
toolbar.) As also shown in the screen shot at 16x16, and looking dandy :)
Is the icon controlled by the window manager, or the app itself ? Is there a
requirement that image must be 32x32 and the wm scale it to the size it wants ?
Given the icon is not used anywhere else at 32x32, could we place a 16x16 icon
inside the file named for 32x32. Then scaling would not need to be performed
(except for the bigger one in the window list - rarely seen), leading to a
clearer image.
Going back 15 years to win3.1 days doesn't appeal to me in the least. I'd
rather not be using the OS considered the "laughing stock" ;) [please take as
gentle jibe!]
At least on kde, it seems that you can restore the thunderbird icon in the taskbar by copying mozilla/other-licenses/branding/thunderbird/default.xpm from the source tree to /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5/chrome/icons/default/ (you'll need to make this directory first, as it does not exist by default). Personally, I think the "thunderbird" icon thus produced is infinitely preferable to the naff old "X" Icon seen previously. I don't see why it's supposed to look bad, to me it looks just as good as the firefox icon. See also: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284962 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171349 The argument that upstream wants this seems strange since the icon appears when you run their nightly builds. I've modified the SPEC file to add (at the end of the install phase # 177823 %{__mkdir_p} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{tbdir}/chrome/icons/default %{__cp} other-licenses/branding/thunderbird/default.xpm \ $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{tbdir}/chrome/icons/default/ And the icon is back for me. Firefox spec already contains the "nearly" same commands : %{__mkdir_p} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{ffdir}/chrome/icons/default/ %{__cp} %{SOURCE23} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{ffdir}/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm %{__cp} %{SOURCE23} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{ffdir}/icons/default.xpm *** Bug 186166 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 186408 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** I'm using FC5 Final now and it gives me the generic X icon too. The numbner of "dupes" and "me too" continues to accumulate, I found a similar long running entry in Mozilla's Bugzilla, and have cross-linked the two in the hope that one of the other might get some attention ... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284962 Me too here post: I get the generic X app icon on GNOME FC5 release I was getting a generic XFCE icon under XFCE 4.2.3.2 in FC5. I copied the file mentioned in Comment #14 and that solved the problem. Can it can be patched via the SPEC file for future releases? Created attachment 127004 [details]
default.xpm
Place this file in the /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5/chrome/icons/default directory
to get your icon back. Reload Thunderbird if it was already up. I'm attaching
this so everyone doesn't have to download the src RPM to get it.
(In reply to comment #21) > Place this file in the /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5/chrome/icons/default directory > to get your icon back. Reload Thunderbird if it was already up. I'm attaching > this so everyone doesn't have to download the src RPM to get it. Works for me. Thanks. (Note that the icons/default directory needs to be created.) So this is a Gnome, Redhat or Mozilla decision? Judging by the some horrendous icons included in FC5, I can't imagine it's something that Redhat did? Look at Ekiga's icon and tell me if you can make any sense of that... Created attachment 128059 [details]
K menu with Thunderbird icon
16 x 16 icon looks just fine
Created attachment 128060 [details]
task bar without Thunderbird icon
a 16 x 16 icon would still be better than X
Probably redundant info : Manually copying "/usr/lib/thunderbird-1.0.7/chrome/icons" (from FC4) to "/usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5/chrome/icons" (FC5) yields all icons (composer, address book, etc.). Build your own rpm with the instructions described on http://fedoranews.org/tchung/thunderbird/. If you use the spec file mentioned there and rebuild the rpm with the latest tar ball the icon is there again. I did so for TB 1.5.0.2 and it works. You need to bump the version inside the spec file from 1.5 to 1.5.0.2 if you use the 1.5.0.2 tar ball from mozilla the ftp because the example is for 1.5. Amazing... with the updated 1.5.0.2 RPM released yesturday this is still not fixed. It's a simple SPEC file update guys... (In reply to comment #28) > Amazing... with the updated 1.5.0.2 RPM released yesturday this is still not > fixed. It's a simple SPEC file update guys... Additionally, the workaround in comment #21 no longer works for me. Why are we deliberately making things uglier? (In reply to comment #29) > Additionally, the workaround in comment #21 no longer works for me. OK, the workaround does work. The icon file now needs to go in /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5.0.2/chrome/icons/default, which probably should have been obvious. (In reply to comment #30) >OK, the workaround does work. The workaround did not work for me with version 1.5.0.2. I worked with 1.5 just fine. Unbelievable : still not corrected with 1.5.0.4 package. Furthermore, the workaround doesn't work anymore !! oll: The workaround works here. I just moved the icons folder from thunderbird-1.5.0.2/chrome to .4/chrome. Can we get an official word from RedHat why this bug hasn't fixed since a work around has been provided? Thunderbird is one of the very few apps that the icon is broken on. Seems like a simple fix to me. Indeed. The spec file change needed is very minor, what's wrong with putting it in? FWIW this is my addition to the end of the install phase in the spec file:- %{__mkdir_p} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{tbdir}/chrome/icons/default install -m644 dist/thunderbird/chrome/icons/default/* \ $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{tbdir}/chrome/icons/default/ - basically the same as Remi's change above. *sigh* The Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 RPM was just released to updates today and this is still not fixed. Does anyone at RedHat read their bugs? Hello? Anyone home? 6 months go buy for a 3 line SPEC FILE change. (In reply to comment #33) > oll: The workaround works here. I just moved the icons folder from > thunderbird-1.5.0.2/chrome to .4/chrome. Doesn't work for me in FC5. (In reply to comment #37) > Doesn't work for me in FC5. The workaround works for me in FC5. I copied: /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5.0.4/icons/mozicon16.xpm to /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5.0.4/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm Then restarted Thunderbird. Always the users are pushed to post bugs to improve, fix, etc, etc. But with this STUPID bug and one that i post for gnome-screensaver i see that time to fix really-simple bugs is extremely big. Why this bug is not fixed yet? How we cant believe that posting bugs will help if these post are abandoned? Whatever... FC5 with updates to 28-jul-2006 still have the same problem. AFAICT, it's this snippet in the specfile that's problematic (as it appears from cvs's 1.5.0.5-2 checkout today): cd $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{tbdir}/chrome find . -name "*" -type d -maxdepth 1 -exec %{__rm} -rf {} \; cd - Not sure of the original rationale for omitting stuff under chrome/, but dropping this specfile code (and including chrome/ bits again) it makes things work properly. Just to remember that this bug was not repaired in Name : thunderbird Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.5.0.5 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 1.1.fc5 Build Date: Tue 08 Aug 2006 09:27:18 PM WEST Paul Paul, tehre is no need to pile onto this bug whenever a new package is build... Sorry Matthias, but people will keep piling onto this bug until Fedora fixes it, since it is so annoying and ugly at the same time it is so ridiculously simple to fix (see comment #40 (also comment #14 and comment #35)). There is a strange statement by Christopher Aillon on comment #9. If it means that Mozilla itself removed the icon, this is absolutely not true. The icon is shipped on Thunderbird packages from mozilla.org, and the icon is used on application menus from both GNOME and KDE. It was one of his own changes that caused the icon to disappear. I tracked it down on Fedora CVS and found the specific commit: http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/thunderbird/thunderbird.spec?r1=1.43&r2=1.44 There are pretty strong arguments on comment #3, comment #10, comment #11 and comment #13; and two still unanswered questions on comment #23 and comment #34. If the whining here becomes too annoying, we will have to close this bug. That arogant response was literally the straw that has broken this camel's back. I have been a user and advocate of Redhat and Fedora systems for a number of years. You can close this bug, you can delete my bugzilla account if you like. Just know this, I installed kubuntu on my laptop this weekend. I believe FC5 will be the last Fedora desktop my computers will see. I agree with Jim. That was no way to handle a public issue. I love Fedora but I definitely don't see any "whining" at all going on here. Why can't Redhat explain what the reasoning is behind the bug so everyone at least feels they aren't ignored? It would be just as easy as the previous comments by Matthias. "Good" to see that some people always ignore simple issues concerned by their user base. After all, the user base's opinion is nothing right? Geez, close this bug, ignore the user and keep this "simple bug" to annoy every user that uses thunderbird. I hate being a troll, but I watched this bug for months and I didn't want to ignore Mathias' comment this time. When we, users, do not report bugs and annoyances in the bugzilla, the distro asks us to do it. When we do it, we are being too annoying. Blah. Seriously Matthias, what the hell? If this is the kind of attitude you're going to have in regard to bugs that many find a big problem, then I really need to reevaluate my choice in distribution. Both for my own use and in what I recommend to customers. Up until now I've considered Red Hat's handling of bugs to be very professional. Get your act together and don't alianate a lot of people over a trivial issue like this. "whining" I can't believe it ! Sucharrogance with people simply trying FREELY to help the Fedora Project. Amazing ! I have *never* been vocal about non-bug related comments in a Bugzilla report, hating the whining as much as most every other, but I consider Matthias' disappointing comment #44 unacceptable in the context of this bug's discussion , and a detriment to Fedora/Redhat's usual professionalism. I fear my off-topic comment can be considered another candidate case in point to close this bug report. (In reply to comment #44) > If the whining here becomes too annoying, we will have to close this bug. Maybe we should close your bugzilla account instead, fedora doesn't need your help to ruin its reputation, nor do my contributions to fedora warrent an @redhat.com to speak in such way to its users and fellow contributers. Where's the public appology? How about we all relax and remember that this is just about a missing icon, ok ? There is plenty of crasher bugs to fix before a missing icon becomes a priority. If some of the energy that is wasted here could be directed towards fixing some of those, that would be nice. Granted there are more important bugs to fix. However, this bug : 1. has 100% end-user visibility (in contrast with some of the more obscure crasher bugs); 2. seriously detriments end-user experience, as one cannot visually differentiate between mail, compose, address book, ... windows ; 3. has a fix available (that is, there is no developer comment about the quality of the aforementioned fix). Your suggestion to limit ourselves to crasher bugs, allthough correct from a certain point of view, suggests excluding myself - being no expert coder and not having the inclination of becoming a Mozilla developer either - from further contributing to a better Fedora experience by reporting bugs and/or suggesting simple patches. Ironically, I myself have - again by this off-topic (first time in 7 years of RH/Fedora/Bugzilla use) comment - already invested more time than this bug should warrant. Matthias, if you'd just said comment #52 in comment #44, this thread would be in much better shape. But, if the fix is just a couple of lines in a spec file, I would hope we could find a few minutes before FC6 to fix it. There's low priority, and then there's stuff that's so trivial there's no reason not to get there. This bug feels more like the latter. Set to block the FC6Target. (In reply to comment #52) > There is plenty of crasher bugs to fix before a missing icon becomes a priority. Since 10 years I'm responsible from Linux worskstations, I rarely had so much users complaining about one bug. All engineers here have a huge amount of windows open in each workspace and since the mailer is their most used application, it's really useful to switch to it easily. Of course, it's technically near than nothing to solve it and there's far more "serious" bugs, but an OS is like Circus : you applaud spectacular acts , far more than the technically difficult ones. Ok, since Max asked me nicely (hi Max !), I will apologize for the tone of comment #44. I do stand by the factual content though: too much bugzilla noise on pet bugs like this just lead to more important things getting lost in the noise. Every time someone adds a "me too" or "still not fixed" comment here, this bug comes up in our bug lists and steals a bit of concentration. If people want to have free-ranging discussions ("threads" as Max put it), a mailing list is a much better medium. Matthias... I know you've done a hell of a lot of work on Red Hat and Fedora's behalf. I know you're a great soldier. But I'm sorry, I can't even support your assertion of the correctness of the "factual content" of this as a "pet bug". Did it ever occur to you that the "me too" syndrome in Bugzilla is actually a *good thing*? Even if it's a pain in your ass? And for that matter, how many "me too" bugs come with patches attached? People don't bother to comment about bugs they don't care about. They comment about bugs that *hinder their ability to get things done*. The metoo-ing of bug reports may be one of our best barometers of the actual severity of a bug, in a lot of ways. Reading back through the history of this bug, we can see that: 1. The bug causes people serious pain, and has in fact been reported multiple times (comments 3, 4, 5, 16, 18, 19 and notably 53); 2. The bug is trivially simple to fix -- or, if it isn't trivial, you've offered *zero* explanation why it isn't (comments 28, 34, 35 and 36); 3. The assertion by caillon that this "bug" was in fact deliberate (comment 9) followed by a number of eminently reasonable counter-arguments (comments 11, 12, 23, 24, and 25); 4. Numerous *actual proposed patches* have been submitted (comments 14, 35 and 40); 5. Your unwillingness even to acknowledge a patch, and your dismissal of perfectly legitimate complaints as "whining," has *enraged* community members (every comment after 44). The most frustrating thing about this bug, and the reaction to it, is that has all been so easily avoidable. Honestly, how long would it have taken you to incorporate (or at least comment on) the patch given to you in comment 40 by Rex Dieter -- who, by the way, happens to be (a) the greatest champion of KDE in the Fedora world, and (b) a member of the Fedora Board? On the upside, I can't think of a better incentive for us to figure out how to fix *ridiculous* problems like this one. Sometimes public embarrassment is a blessing. I'm not in a position to acknowledge patches here. The package maintainer, who is also our closest Mozilla liaison, Chris Aillon, has explained the reason for the current situation in comment #9 and I have no reason to believe that he lied. So until Chris updates this bug with new information about the situation, further comments here will not change the situation. Which is even more frustrating: you are speaking "authoritatively" about the bug on the one hand, and then deferring the issue to Chris Aillon on the other hand. Sigh. Okay, I'll bite. Chris, according to your comment 9: "This is actually intended by upstream -- the Thunderbird icon at small sizes looks bad because it is so complex -- and they would rather distribute no icon than a bad looking one." Which seems to be contradicted by comment 13 from Pierre Ossman: "The argument that upstream wants this seems strange since the icon appears when you run their nightly builds." So one of the following is true: 1. The suggested patches fix the problem, we know they fix the problem, and we're just too stubborn to put them in. I'm pretty sure this isn't the case. :) 2. The suggested patches do not fix the problem -- and we can't take the time to explain why not. 3. We don't have time to verify the suggested patches and would rather leave them alone until we do have time --and we can't take the time to explain why not. At the *very* least, for this *particular* bug, it's time to explain the delay, fix it if we can, defer it if we can't, and put the matter to rest. I'll ask Chris when he's back from LinuxWorld This is good drama! And this is also why Bugzilla is a very good thing. Thanks to both of you for making this a priority. (In reply to comment #40) > AFAICT, it's this snippet in the specfile that's problematic (as it appears > from cvs's 1.5.0.5-2 checkout today): > > cd $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{tbdir}/chrome > find . -name "*" -type d -maxdepth 1 -exec %{__rm} -rf {} \; > cd - This seems to be a pretty much straight copy from the firefox spec: http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/firefox/firefox.spec?rev=HEAD&view=auto However in the ff spec a few lines below it, it does: %{__mkdir_p} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{ffdir}/chrome/icons/default/ %{__cp} %{SOURCE23} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{ffdir}/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm %{__cp} %{SOURCE23} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{ffdir}/icons/default.xpm which is missing from the thunderbird package (specificly the source23, which in ff is the xpm icon, which is easily obtained from the tarbal) ps while digging in this i noticed 2 more differences from the ff spec: FF has: %ifarch ppc ppc64 s390 s390x %define moz_make_flags -j1 %else %define moz_make_flags %{?_smp_mflags} %endif MAKE="gmake %{moz_make_flags}" make -f client.mk build however thunderbird only has: make -f client.mk build_all the missing -j flags do make the build quite a bit slower on my system :-) Also it has a flag 'official_branding' and only when it is set to '1' 'should' the build be 'official' (just guessing here :-)), however these 2 are not conditional in the thunderbird spec file, and arn't in the ff spec: export BUILD_OFFICIAL=1 export MOZILLA_OFFICIAL=1 Not sure if this is intended, but it would seem that these exports contradict the conditional 'thunderbird-mozconfig-branded' configure flag: --enable-official-branding This bug probably isnt the right place for these observations, but i'm in a rush to go to work :-) so, it's been a couple of weeks and this bug is still a pretty trivial fix, and it's still been completely ignored. I assume Chris is back from LinuxWorld by now. Can we get an update please? I'm waiting for an answer, but just re-pinged. Will update the bug as soon as I know more. On an aside, it is very strangely interesting that this bug has gotten such a "cult following" if you will. This isn't even the default mailer in Fedora.... Does this imply that should change? Interesting to think about.... This probably isn't the place to discuss what should or shouldn't be the default mail application. Where should that discussion take place? Mailing list? Forum? Where will the "right" people see it? I would be in favor of replacing evolution though! *Anywhere* but here. I'd rather get flooded by everyone personally with mails than discuss this here. But hopefully there are more public fora that can be found. So, I just got an okay to do this. The concern was that the xpm didn't look good against certain backgrounds and a few bugs were filed about it both in RH bugzilla and in upstream bugzilla. As I was trying to abide by the wishes because of the trademark guidelines at the time (we were under review), I did remove it. Those bugs have since been fixed and it now appears other platforms use this and scott says he thinks its now fine, so I'm going to go ahead and re-add the icon in the next set of builds (which will be 1.5.0.5-7) Fantastic, thanks very much for the update Chris. Yay! I wish you'd provided a reference for your comment #9, it didn't seem to stand up when at least the official win32 version does ship a 16x16 icon. Thanks. And lo! There *was* art for alt-tab :-) *** Bug 187291 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** I had the exact same icon problem with version 1.5.0.7 (20060913) I downloaded today for FC5. It was corrected by creating the directories/files by copying: /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5.0.7/icons/mozicon16.xpm to /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5.0.7/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm I now have icons in the tray. Thank you to davidrobertwhite (Comment 38) Should not the package of thunderbird do that automatically during its installation? Paul I had the same problem in 1.5.0.10 and again it was fixed by copying: /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5.0.10/icons/mozicon50.xpm to /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5.0.10/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm mozicon50 gives a much sharper alt-tab-switching image than mozicon16 |