Bug 440280

Summary:	postfix tries (and fails) to start before NetworkManager
Product:	[Fedora] Fedora	Reporter:	Rex Dieter <rdieter>
Component:	NetworkManager	Assignee:	Dan Williams <dcbw>
Status:	CLOSED RAWHIDE	QA Contact:	Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
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Priority:	low
Version:	rawhide	CC:	notting, twoerner, wtogami
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OS:	Linux
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Fixed In Version:	8.69-1	Doc Type:	Bug Fix
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Description Rex Dieter 2008-04-02 16:09:12 UTC

Using NetworkManger, per F-9 default.

On boot, I see:

Starting postfix:  failed

/var/log/maillog contains
postfix/sendmail[...]: fatal: could not find any active network interfaces

Which is probably true, since it tries to start before NetworkManager.

Comment 1 Thomas Woerner 2008-04-02 16:37:27 UTC

Is there no local network interface?

Comment 2 Rex Dieter 2008-04-02 16:41:15 UTC

Apparently not until NetworkManager starts.

Comment 3 Thomas Woerner 2008-04-02 16:53:55 UTC

Then this is a NetworkManager bug. You can not start any network service without
at least local network.

Assigning to NetworkManager.

Comment 4 Rex Dieter 2008-04-02 17:05:28 UTC

fair nuf.

Not that you mention it, this may be self-inflicted, since this is an updated
box from early in the F9 dev cycle, I manually
chkconfig network off
chkconfig NetworkMananager on
awhile back.  

Should network service be enabled or disabled?  (will try it enabled to see what
happens).

Comment 5 Rex Dieter 2008-04-02 17:14:21 UTC

confirmed, with both 'network' and 'NetworkManager' services running, things
work as expected/advertised.

I'll close this.  Move along, nothing to see here.

Comment 6 Warren Togami 2008-04-02 17:17:41 UTC

Things are supposed to work with NetworkManager and without network.  Reopening.

Comment 7 Dan Williams 2008-04-03 01:32:56 UTC

was talking with notting about this today; there are two circular deps if we'd
try to start NM earlier.  The first is that dbus depends on syslog, but syslog
depends on network.  bascially sysvinit and lsb suck.  not much we can do here
until we get a better init system.

Comment 8 Bill Nottingham 2008-04-03 15:13:58 UTC

We could always bring up loopback somewhere else. That actually fits the broken
LSB definition of 'network'....

Comment 9 Colin Walters 2008-04-03 19:51:23 UTC

Also could have a smarter syslog that queues up messages until the network is
available.

Comment 10 Rex Dieter 2008-04-04 11:28:17 UTC

see also #bug #439242

Comment 11 Rex Dieter 2008-04-06 16:44:22 UTC

Seems recent fixes (in initscripts) to address bug #439242 has also resolved
this for me (postfix starts now anyway).

Comment 12 Bill Nottingham 2008-04-07 16:06:17 UTC

That's strange; it should be mostly unrelated.

Comment 13 Rex Dieter 2008-04-08 14:12:03 UTC

nevermind.  rechecked, and my comment #11 is incorrect.  still a problem alright.

Comment 14 Rex Dieter 2008-04-09 00:51:25 UTC

initscripts-8.69-1 confirmed mm, mm, good.