Bug 470691

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Still an issue with F10 (and probably F9).

In my opinion, it's undesirable to have debuginfo packages require *all* of the main packages, but it would be useful if they required *at least one* to be installed (otherwise you'd get unwanted main packages when you install the debuginfo package), and that the version numbers are the same.  (I've encountered several situations where the debuginfo package has been updated before the main package, which can cause problems getting debugging symbols in the meantime.)

The -debuginfo packages being left behind needs a different
upgrade model, not a "newer" EVR comparison and a Requires:
dependency, but rather automated removal of -debuginfo
when the last package built at the same time as the -debuginfo
package was built is erased.

Adding a Requires: from -debuginfo to any/all of the packages of
the set will force the -debuginfo to be upgraded with all the
other packages, usually unnecessarily because -debuginfo
packages are used differently than other packages. In the worst
case scenario, the additional Requires: in a -debuginfo will
cause upgrades to fail (if the -debuginfo upgrade is not also included).

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Fedora 10 changed to end-of-life (EOL) status on 2009-12-17. Fedora 10 is 
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still present in pam_mount-debuginfo-1.32-1.fc12.i686.rpm from Rawhide.

This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 13 development cycle.
Changing version to '13'.

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*** Bug 596505 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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I am reopening this bug because I believe it is the right thing to do.  My main issue is not because -debuginfo packages are left behind, but essentially because installing a -debuginfo package without having the binary install is just not productive/logical.  I have just solved a GDB bug about this (GDB was displaying a wrong hint for the user, containing a command to be run, which only installed the -debuginfo and still did not allow the user to debug the binary because there was *no* binary installed).  Anyway, is there any chance of this being fixed?

Requiring main package seems like the obvious thing to do... up to the point where a debuginfo package is blocking a security (or other important) update from getting applied. Since the debuginfo packages live in separate repositories and do not affect the actual functionality of the packages they are for, the current situation is simply the lesser of two evils.

There is some faint hope that we might be able to fix this with weak or boolean dependencies. Leaving this open for now. A dependency based solution will most likely require the debug-info repository being enabled, though.

This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 23 development cycle.
Changing version to '23'.

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*** Bug 1289160 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Recently, another thing was mentioned - related to this issue - https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/V3JDB74XPJQVNWO7SJVVDYFP3AR6GQD4/ ... debuginfo doesn't depend on the main package, but doesn't contain any license information. This is an issue from legal point of view based on the statement by Richard Fontana.

While Fedora is obviously affected, this isn't Fedora specific in any way so moving upstream where the rpm planning happens.