Bug 701181

Summary:	bluedevil drags in pulseaudio through dependencies
Product:	[Fedora] Fedora	Reporter:	Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora>
Component:	bluedevil	Assignee:	Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik>
Status:	CLOSED DUPLICATE	QA Contact:	Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
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Version:	14	CC:	jreznik, kevin, ltinkl, rdieter, than
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Description Orcan Ogetbil 2011-05-01 21:59:46 UTC

Description of problem:
bluedevil depends directly on pulseaudio-module-bluetooth, which drags in pulseaudio.

Is it possible to split the pulseaudio dependency to a subpackage? Fedora works beautifully without pulseaudio as it always did. Given that there is a significant fraction of people which still don't use pulseaudio, dictating its installation does not seem like a legitimate solution.

If splitting is not possible, could you suggest an alternative solution?

Thanks.


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
1.1-1.fc14

How reproducible:
always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Update a Fedora 14 KDE installation.
2. pulseaudio gets dragged in.
3.
  
Actual results:
pulseaudio

Expected results:
workingaudio

Additional info:
Everything worked fine until the 1.1-1.fc14 update.

Comment 1 Kevin Kofler 2011-05-01 22:26:54 UTC


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 700155 ***

Comment 2 Orcan Ogetbil 2011-05-01 22:42:04 UTC

Well, not quite.

The marked bug does is closed and it does not contain answers to all the questions I asked.

Comment 3 Kevin Kofler 2011-05-01 22:56:21 UTC

The bug is exactly about the same thing as yours => duplicate.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 700155 ***

Comment 4 Orcan Ogetbil 2011-05-02 00:00:10 UTC

Please prove me wrong:


(In reply to comment #3)
> The bug is exactly about the same thing as yours => duplicate.

No, that's not true. Let's analyze:

From the bug that you referred:


> The package bluedevil requires pulseaudio-module-bluetooth, which requires
> pulseaudio.
> There are still users that do not want pulseaudio.
> bluedevil does not really need pulseaudio-module-bluetooth.
> I guess the dependency has been added to be convenient, but it is a mess for
> non-pulseaudio users.
> 
> Please, remove this dependancy.


The author of this message asks you to remove the pulseaudio dependency. And this is all.

Let's have a look at my message:

(In reply to comment #0)
> Is it possible to split the pulseaudio dependency to a subpackage? Fedora works
> beautifully without pulseaudio as it always did. Given that there is a
> significant fraction of people which still don't use pulseaudio, dictating its
> installation does not seem like a legitimate solution.
> 
> If splitting is not possible, could you suggest an alternative solution?
> 

The author of this message does not say he wants you to remove this dependency.

He clearly asks two questions:

- Is it possible to split the pulseaudio dependency to a subpackage?
- If splitting is not possible, could you suggest an alternative solution?

These two questions does not exist in the bug you mentioned.

Hence the two bug reports are different.

Reopening.

Comment 5 Kevin Kofler 2011-05-02 00:20:17 UTC

> - Is it possible to split the pulseaudio dependency to a subpackage?

Already asked by the other submitter:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=700155#c2

> - If splitting is not possible, could you suggest an alternative solution?

No.

Now your questions are answered, stop reopening the bug.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 700155 ***

Comment 6 Orcan Ogetbil 2011-05-02 00:48:49 UTC

(In reply to comment #5)
> > - Is it possible to split the pulseaudio dependency to a subpackage?
> 
> Already asked by the other submitter:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=700155#c2
> 

No, the other submitter, talks about an empty metapackage. I am talking about a subpackage with split functionality.


Different questions. Different requests.

> > - If splitting is not possible, could you suggest an alternative solution?
> 
> No.
> 

Thanks. But the question did not exist in the bug you mentioned.

Hence this is not duplicate.

Reopening.

Comment 7 Kevin Kofler 2011-05-02 00:53:17 UTC

Same complaint, different suggested resolutions. Post your suggestions to the original bug if you think they're relevant. (As explained on IRC, I actually think they don't make sense.) Reopening this one is not helpful.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 700155 ***