Created attachment 830756 [details] These are the configurations for 10-antialias.conf and 10-hinting-slight.conf Description of problem: The fonts in Fedora 19 look odd, thin and the font alignment is totally off resulting in unreadable or very poor quality text. Setting Gnome Shell's or even Mate's anti-aliasing font-configuration here does nothing to enhance text quality. Web-pages in browsers such as Chrome and Firefox look ugly and strange. Other Linux distributions such as Ubuntu and Unixes like Mac OS X do not have this problem, on fresh installs fonts look crisp, beautiful and full. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) How reproducible: Do a fresh install of Fedora 19 from the install images, look at the fonts. Steps to Reproduce: 1. Do a fresh install of Fedora 19 from the install images. 2. Attempt to use the desktop environment settings to adjust the font aliasing and hinting. 3. Look at text rendering versus that in other distributions. Actual results: Text is rendered in a very odd and thin way, kerning is also off and the fonts characters are misaligned, in Fedora resulting in a degraded visual experience especially in web-browsers, Expected results: Text should render in a similar beautiful and smooth fashion the way it does on other Linux distributions such as Ubuntu and Unixes such as Mac OS X. Additional info: Manual configuration is required to fix this by creating the proper symbolic links between '/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/' and '/etc/fonts/conf.d' for the following configurations which are installed in 'conf.avail' but just never configured out of the box: '/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf' '/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/11-lcdfilter-default.conf' It also requires the creation of the following two font configurations which are attached to this bug report and the creation of the corresponding symbolic links in '/etc/fonts/conf.d': '/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/10-antialias.conf' '/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/10-hinting-slight.conf' External References: http://ruturaj.net/tweaking-gnome3-fedora-fonts-like-ubuntu/
I don't think enabling 10-antialias.conf, 10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf and 11-lcdfilter-default.conf would helps for your issue because those should be already enabled by the desktop's configuration. for defaulting the hinting style to the slight, we have another bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035486 I don't make this as duplicate of that at this point yet but I'm still thinking the same to what I mentioned in that bug. I'd encourage you to file a separate bug for a font what you feels odd for.
Looking at that bug #1035486 and doing some further testing I've come to the conclusion that following is the bare minimum to make things look right: /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-hinting-slight.conf As well as installing the 'freetype-freeworld' package also improved things and eliminated any issues mentioned in #1035486. You were right, either using Gnome or Mate, the desktop shell RGBA and hint-slight settings fixed most issues in most places but applications like browsers that are more or less using their own built-in rendering for fonts are the most severely affected. This is critical because browsers are the single most important core application and the most frequently used. Font rendering in browsers needs to be at parity with Mac OS and Windows 7/8, this can be achieved by simple configuration. I also don't know the status of 'freetype-freeworld' and why it's not included but it should be installed by default.
I see another bug report that are complaining similar thing at Bug#1035486 which is related to the new CFF rasterizer though, are you seeing this issue with Cantarell only? if there are any other fonts, please let me know.
Akira, unfortunately I think this is a related issue but not exactly a duplicate of the one you mentioned. I don't have a problem with fuzzy fonts. My problem is that on installation Fedora does not configure fonts in a way that makes sense for users with LCD or LED monitors or those running on laptops. While it is true that the desktop environments control font hinting for apps under their direct control other X11 apps that have separate rendering systems are not. To mark this bug fixed it needs the follow to fix: > The package 'freetype-freeworld' should be installed by default. > In '/etc/fonts/conf.d' the following needs to be enabled. >> 10-sub-pixel-rgb >> 10-hinting-slight >> 10-lcdfilter-default > autohinter or any other types of hinting needs to be disabled. This way font rendering in X11 applications such as xterm the various web-browsers like Chrome or Firefox and other apps will render fonts properly on LCD/LED screens and laptops.
Here are a list of bugs that are potentially caused by this misconfiguration: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1021323 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031878 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000671 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1052389 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=984230 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055071 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1025919 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975485 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1070081 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708525 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638726
(In reply to AGS from comment #4) > Akira, unfortunately I think this is a related issue but not exactly a > duplicate of the one you mentioned. I don't have a problem with fuzzy > fonts. My problem is that on installation Fedora does not configure fonts > in a way that makes sense for users with LCD or LED monitors or those > running on laptops. While it is true that the desktop environments control > font hinting for apps under their direct control other X11 apps that have > separate rendering systems are not. Well, I'd say that is out of the scope of fontconfig and is what desktops takes care. making dependencies to X and/or any hardware specific things in fontconfig isn't a good idea unless there are anything supporting cross-platforms.
(In reply to Akira TAGOH from comment #6) > (In reply to AGS from comment #4) > > Akira, unfortunately I think this is a related issue but not exactly a > > duplicate of the one you mentioned. I don't have a problem with fuzzy > > fonts. My problem is that on installation Fedora does not configure fonts > > in a way that makes sense for users with LCD or LED monitors or those > > running on laptops. While it is true that the desktop environments control > > font hinting for apps under their direct control other X11 apps that have > > separate rendering systems are not. > > Well, I'd say that is out of the scope of fontconfig and is what desktops > takes care. making dependencies to X and/or any hardware specific things in > fontconfig isn't a good idea unless there are anything supporting > cross-platforms. Akira, just taking a look at this bug after a long time. I still don't agree with your assertion. System-wide font config is important because apps like Firefox, LiberOffice and Chromium have their own font-rendering and that's directly affected by the systems font config and not the desktop environments own built-in rendering settings. This is also true of older X11 style apps like xterm. That's why tools like Fedy (http://satya164.github.io/fedy/) are so popular on Fedora. There's a feature to install the "Infinality" font-rendering package that fixes these issues: https://github.com/satya164/fedy/blob/master/plugins/util/font_rendering.sh If fonts on Fedora were properly configured out-of-the-box then we wouldn't need such tweaks just to get things to look right.
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Is this bug still exist in F23? Is not please close else move to F23. We don't want to loose any valuable bug :)
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This is still current as this is still ongoing. New Fedora installs are not given correct font configuration leading to very odd font hinting. How will this be handled in GNOME Wayland session?
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