Bug 106592 - up2date will not show me systems I add so I cannot assign channels
Summary: up2date will not show me systems I add so I cannot assign channels
Alias: None
Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3
Classification: Red Hat
Component: up2date   
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Version: 3.0
Hardware: i386
OS: Linux
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Assignee: dff
QA Contact: Fanny Augustin
: 106591 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2003-10-08 19:02 UTC by Bill Palos
Modified: 2007-11-30 22:06 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2003-10-17 13:44:09 UTC
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Description Bill Palos 2003-10-08 19:02:43 UTC
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Description of problem:
We have been issued keys to be able to use up2date here for 
RC1 respin. We register the system at startup and it says my system
has been successfully registered, but the channel subscriptions
were exhausted. I login to my RHN account and see no systems to delete so I
don't have anymore entitlements. I have tried both ways using and existing
account and starting a new account and still no system shows up in my account.
The applet does eventually show I have updates available, but then I get an
error that the system is not assigned to a channel
and I can't seem to do that when I try to launch up2date.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1.install rc1 respin
2.register system on initial start
3.system will register, but cannot be assigned a channel

Additional info:

Comment 1 Greg DeKoenigsberg 2003-10-08 19:50:37 UTC
When you say "issued keys," do you mean activation keys to be used with
rhnreg_ks?  Who issued the keys to you?

Comment 2 Bret McMillan 2003-10-08 19:53:58 UTC
Are you an org admin for the org tied to the activation keys?

Comment 3 dff 2003-10-08 20:20:53 UTC
Bill is using 'product IDs' for use at www.redhat.com/now that were issued to
partners in order to grant access to the RC.

Bill -- you need to activate one product ID (e.g. the 16-character code) for
_each_ system you register.  Also, make sure that you use the same account name
when you activate at www.redhat.com/now and when you register your system to
RHN.  Can you check that you've done both of those?

Comment 4 Bill Palos 2003-10-08 22:12:40 UTC
I have 2 keys assigned to me now under the same email address
as my user name.  I noticed when I run up2date
I get this too:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/gui.py", line 1035, in onSendPageNext
    self.channels = rhnChannel.getChannels()
  File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/rhnChannel.py", line 145, in getChannels
    raise up2dateErrors.NoChannelsError(_("This system may not be updated until
it is associated with a channel."))
up2date_client.up2dateErrors.NoChannelsError: This system may not be updated
until it is associated with a channel.

Comment 5 Bill Palos 2003-10-08 22:19:53 UTC
I'm going through a proxy too...

Comment 6 William "B.J." Black 2003-10-09 00:25:05 UTC
I'm the activation key gatekeeper here at Sun.  Bill has so far tried the following:

1.  Adding additional keys to the group account.
2.  Turning off any machines with that same hostname (i.e. turning their
entitlements OFF).
3.  Setting a different hostname.

None of these has produced a different effect.  My understanding is that:

1.  These folks are supposed to be able to pull from our pool of keys (as other
RH distros do).
2.  Machines are supposed to show in both the origin user's RHN account, and in
the group one.
3.  Machines probably aren't supposed to show multiple times (you'd either get
an error or the last entry would "win".

None of these things are happening.  While we can put a management system in
place to handle item 1 (though 25 keys will then be woefully insufficient for
testing--our QA guys like Bill do tests that require rebuilds on the same box as
many as 10 times per DAY), item 2 is really a showstopper (we'd need to assign
an FTE just to sit on https://rhn.redhat.com and manage systems?  Please.). 
Item 3, frankly, would frankly be merely annoying if users could turn off their
own entitlements.

Comment 7 Bill Nottingham 2003-10-09 02:02:06 UTC
*** Bug 106591 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 8 Joe deBlaquiere 2003-10-09 16:09:32 UTC
There appear to be sufficient entitlements and I was able to register a system
successfully to this account. There should be no order dependence for
registration of entitlements on www.redhat.com/now and registration of the
system profile with rhn.redhat.com. 

At this point all you should need to do is run:

up2date --register

check the "register to existing account radio button, and give it the username
"bill.palos@sun.com" and the password ... then all the Finish/Next buttons you
can find :). 

Comment 9 Bill Palos 2003-10-09 22:13:59 UTC
After snooping around I realize I have 2 accounts that use the same email
and I do get the system to show when using my email as the username, but
that was not the intented account i was expecting it to show up in. As far
as I can remember I don't recall being able to sign up more than once with
RHN under the same email address. 

Comment 10 William "B.J." Black 2003-10-09 22:42:08 UTC
To further clarify:

Users "bill.palos@sun.com" and "sun.bill.palos" both exist, both have the same
email address (which isn't supposed to happen, afaik), and are thoroughly
confused wrt who has the entitlements.

(Almost) all Sun accounts that are under the group umbrella are of the form
"sun.foo.bar".  Mine (bjblack) and a small smattering of others are
grandfathered exceptions.  I'd frankly rather see "bill.palos@sun.com" go away,
with it's resources transferred to the group account so we can disambiguate. 
That alone might make this whole problem go away.

Even so, this doesn't explain why systems registered with "sun.bill.palos" show
in the group account, but not under his.  If this bug doesn't go away, what to do...

Comment 11 Joe deBlaquiere 2003-10-13 13:35:07 UTC
It's not a bug, it's a feature :).

The sun.bill.palos account is not an Org Admin (like say, the nspollack account
is) therefore that account only has visibility to systems that are in Groups to
which that account is an administrator. Org Admins have visibility to all
systems. The intent is to allow controlled delegation of management
capabilities. You can see which users are Org Admins and which are not at:


Depending on your goals you may wish to make all your users Org Admins or you
may wish to create groups and assign systems to groups and give users the
ability to manage groups. For example, you can alter the users who can manage
the "Test Group" group at (assuming you're an org admin):


As far as having access to systems you register, Activiation Keys allow systems
to be subscribed to channels and included in groups at registration. So if you
have users who are administrators for particular system groups and you want them
to be able to register systems directly to that group, you create an activation
key and use "rhnreg_ks" to register the system:



Comment 12 dff 2003-10-17 13:44:09 UTC
Closing bug, assuming Sun has the info they need now.  Reopen if that's not the

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