why is KDEPIM now a dependency? looks like "kopete" is te trigger because it would be removed with "kdepim-common" and is the only by intention installed package from the list at bottom Installing for dependencies: baloo-akonadi boost-thread gnupg2-smime grantlee kaddressbook-libs kdepim-common kdepim-libs kdepim-runtime kdepim-runtime-libs khotkeys khotkeys-libs kinfocenter kleopatra kmail kmail-libs kmenuedit knotes knotes-libs libkfbapi libkgapi libkolab libkolabxml libksba pinentry-qt python-lockfile spambayes xerces-c ___________________________________________ kdepim-common x86_64 4.14.4-2.fc20 @updates-testing 2.1 M Entfernt für Abhängigkeiten: baloo-akonadi x86_64 4.14.3-1.fc20 @updates 205 k boost-thread x86_64 1.54.0-12.fc20 @updates 93 k gnupg2-smime x86_64 2.0.25-1.fc20 @updates 922 k grantlee x86_64 0.3.0-3.fc20 @fedora 1.0 M kaddressbook-libs x86_64 4.14.4-2.fc20 @updates-testing 899 k kdepim-libs x86_64 7:4.14.4-2.fc20 @updates-testing 8.0 M kdepim-runtime x86_64 1:4.14.4-1.fc20 @updates-testing 12 M kdepim-runtime-libs x86_64 1:4.14.4-1.fc20 @updates-testing 448 k kleopatra x86_64 4.14.4-2.fc20 @updates-testing 3.8 M kleopatra-libs x86_64 4.14.4-2.fc20 @updates-testing 1.6 M kmail x86_64 4.14.4-2.fc20 @updates-testing 4.2 M kmail-libs x86_64 4.14.4-2.fc20 @updates-testing 9.7 M knotes x86_64 4.14.4-2.fc20 @updates-testing 794 k knotes-libs x86_64 4.14.4-2.fc20 @updates-testing 507 k kopete x86_64 14.12.1-1.fc20 @updates-testing 16 M kopete-libs x86_64 14.12.1-1.fc20 @updates-testing 4.2 M libkfbapi x86_64 1.0-1.fc20 @fedora 522 k libkgapi x86_64 2.2.0-1.fc20 @updates 1.7 M libkolab x86_64 0.5.2-1.fc20 @updates 886 k libkolabxml x86_64 1.0.1-2.fc20 @updates 2.9 M libksba x86_64 1.3.2-1.fc20 @updates 311 k pinentry-qt x86_64 0.8.1-11.fc20 @fedora 150 k python-lockfile noarch 1:0.9.1-5.fc20 @fedora 74 k spambayes noarch 1.1-0.8.b1.fc20 @updates 2.3 M xerces-c
OK, looks like our initial attempt at splitting kdepim may have been sub-optimal. It's no worse than the single monolithic 'kdepim' before though.
In short, all subpkgs pull in kdepim-common, which pulls in kdepim-libs and kmail-libs
*but* before the today updates from updates-testing all that stuff was *not* installed or better said removeable and in fact removed here - something recently changed in the wrong direction
Which version of kdepim was installed prior to the update?
*none* and that is the point "Installing for dependencies"! Installing for dependencies: baloo-akonadi boost-thread gnupg2-smime grantlee kaddressbook-libs kdepim-common kdepim-libs kdepim-runtime kdepim-runtime-libs khotkeys khotkeys-libs kinfocenter kleopatra kmail kmail-libs kmenuedit knotes knotes-libs libkfbapi libkgapi libkolab libkolabxml libksba pinentry-qt python-lockfile spambayes xerces-c
Ok, I guess I was misled by your initial comment: looks like "kopete" is the trigger where I assumed you had kopete (and the rest of kdepim) installed prior to the update.
My bad, kopete wasn't in kdepim, my error
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1155812 ***
thank you for the kopete subpackage, just updated from koji and "yum remove kdepim-common" wa able to uninstall the packages pulled yesterday with 58 MB some may say what are 58 MB, well my full featured workstation needs 6.3 GB for / even with VMware Workstation and ZendStudio, so the pure Fedora would need around 4 GB - the point of slim down the setup is faster upgrades and less cross-dependency problems in case of major upgrades besides the space Jan 31 12:43:54 Updated: kopete-14.12.1-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:43:55 Updated: kopete-libs-14.12.1-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: kleopatra-4.14.4-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: kdepim-common-4.14.4-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: knotes-4.14.4-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: knotes-libs-4.14.4-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: kmail-4.14.4-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: kaddressbook-libs-4.14.4-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: kmail-libs-4.14.4-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: 7:kdepim-libs-4.14.4-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: kleopatra-libs-4.14.4-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:51 Erased: 1:kdepim-runtime-libs-4.14.4-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:52 Erased: 1:kdepim-runtime-4.14.4-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:54 Erased: libkolab-0.5.2-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:54 Erased: libkolabxml-1.0.1-2.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:54 Erased: spambayes-1.1-0.8.b1.fc20.noarch Jan 31 12:48:54 Erased: gnupg2-smime-2.0.25-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:54 Erased: 1:python-lockfile-0.9.1-5.fc20.noarch Jan 31 12:48:54 Erased: libksba-1.3.2-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:54 Erased: boost-thread-1.54.0-12.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:54 Erased: xerces-c-3.1.1-5.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:55 Erased: libkfbapi-1.0-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:55 Erased: libkgapi-2.2.0-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:55 Erased: grantlee-0.3.0-3.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:55 Erased: baloo-akonadi-4.14.3-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 31 12:48:55 Erased: pinentry-qt-0.8.1-11.fc20.x86_64