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Description of problem:
mouse emulation is possible for apple laptops. To make F10 be middle
click, and F11 be right click (sane defaults for g3 ibooks) this needs
to be added to /etc/sysctl.conf:
dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation = 1
dev.mac_hid.mouse_button2_keycode = 68
dev.mac_hid.mouse_button3_keycode = 87
I'm really not sure how anaconda will sort out what laptop is what,
but I'm sure Jeremy can work some magic... (:
Maybe if this isn't automatic, but a firstboot issue where the user
can be prompted to press the keys they want to use for each event...
anaconda is not in the business of changing random sysctls for random
Yuk. Set the default in the kernel!
I wonder if acme could usefully do this?
I'm not familiar enough w/ acme. Something to consider, we don't want
people logging in remotely to start a Gnome session and have their
mouse settings override the person who's at the local console (how
often does this happen w/ laptops, who knows...).
I'm cool with seeing F11 be right click, F10 be middle click. Thats
how I use my ibook. Any objections to this as the "sane default" ?
Wrt comment #4, no objections since I have become rather used to it by
*** Bug 108095 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
That would be something easy enough to add as an enhancement to the
Mouse config tool, in graphical, bypassing X to use the input layer
Wrt comment #4, I actually use FN+Ctrl or Fn+Alt rather than F11/F12,
so my sane default differs :)
So, are we finding a nice workaround for this in time for FC3?
AFAIK the "Fn" key only exists on PowerBooks, not on desktop Macs
(neither my iMac at home nor the G4 I used to have at work have the
"Fn" key on their keyboards).
I think F10/F11 is what Yellow Dog tends toward (either in its
defaults or its documentation, I forget which). If anaconda defaults
to something else, I think it's going to cause confusion, unless it's
very well documented.
Out of interest, what would you right click or middle click on anaconda ?
Wade, you don't right or middle-click ina anconda - the issue is
setting up the "correct" sysctls, and Jesse thought anaconda. Jeremy
is weary about the idea, and notting says we can opt for it in the
kernel. dwmw2 considers acme foo - what are we going to do about it
Barry in comment #9, yes, F10/F11 is whats used, and you're right
about not having the Fn key on non-laptops (didn't even realise till I
got a non-laptop Mac :) ).
It would be possible to do that pretty easily in X, especially in the
multimedia-keys part of the control-center:
- add middle mouse button, and right mouse button shortcuts (entries
in the table, actions, and GConf entries)
- add actions for those buttons, generate the right or middle click
and releases with XTestFakeButtonEvent()
Sure, it could be done in X, however an emulation like this is more
system level as right clicks could be used in console. Since there is
a kernel sys entry to manage the emulation of these buttons, I had
thought that perhaps exposing this setting at a system level was more
appropriate, such as in anaconda when asking to emulate a two button
mouse as 3 buttons.
Will this get some attention now that Fedora Core officially supports the
PowerPC architecture? Apple laptops are pretty handicapped without this
feature. Could someone reassign this bug to FC5 or devel?
Moving to FC5 target.
However, I think there needs to be a better way than one-off arch hacks in the
installer. Perhaps a udev rule that operates on the mac IO mouse device that
calls sysctl to set these parameters?
Move to FC7 target.
Created attachment 289722 [details]
udev rule to run enable-mouse-emulation for ADB mice
Created attachment 289723 [details]
Script to enable mouse button emulation
Out of curiousity, why does it need to be configurable key-wise?
sadly because apple keeps moving what keys are used for eject and such, and some
laptops have higher FXX number keys. But 'configuration' sucks.
I decided to use default values with the option of reconfiguration. On my
laptop, there is a little "enter" key near the trackpad which I use for right
clicks. Middle click is F11. But, as Jesse states, I think different Apple
laptops may have different key layouts.
Based on the date this bug was created, it appears to have been reported
against rawhide during the development of a Fedora release that is no
longer maintained. In order to refocus our efforts as a project we are
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Thanks for your help, and we apologize again that we haven't handled
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Is anyone using the PowerPC port anymore? Is anyone using Fedora on Apple laptops? This bug was reported, with a solution in 2004. Since then, the solution has been changed to address concerns voiced in the comments above. Until this is fixed, GNOME is difficult to use on Apple laptops without plugging in an external, multi-button mouse.
Oof, apologies. This really should have been reassigned a while ago.
Assigning to udev for rule integration - the script itself obviously shouldn't be writing to /tmp, but that looks like debugging code anyway.b
Hmm, why not make a separate package, which provides the tool, the rules and the config file. Certainly not every architecture needs this.