Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 124213
Clean out games menu in default installs
Last modified: 2008-05-06 19:59:18 EDT
Description of problem: Navigating the menus, I found them relatively well organized althought I think there is just too many items in some, such as Games. I feel the UI rule of thumb of 5-7 items per level in menus should be respected, especially when some of the games provided are substandard or require a not-very-often properly configured 3d card (TuxRacer). Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Standard workstation install 2. Think of a task to do 3. Hunt down the program in the menus Actual results: Discover how much extra time to hunt down programs Expected results: Short, well organized menus with 5-7 items each (minimum 3). When a program is added and this limit is exceeded, the menu is reorganized intelligently. Very best game selection only. Additional info:
We should clean out the games menu. Re-assigning to design component.
So our current thinking is to include the following by default: - Monkey Bubble - Neverball - Tuxracer - Iagno - Mahjongg
Broke out adding Monkey Bubble & Neverball as separate bugs: #140415 and #140417
Yes! Bill is apart of the solitaire cabal, this will probably lose my hold on keeping Mahjongg :-) - Monkey Bubble - Neverball - Tuxracer - Iagno - Mahjongg - Solitaire Games
I noticed that my suggestion to remove all 3d games was ignored. Are the games going to be modified so that they are able to autodetect and say "Your video card does not seem to support 3D correctly, are you sure you want to run this?" as it is more often the case than not that the 3d video card are not properly configured? Plus, I just installed Fedora Core 3 at work and someone pointed out "Why do you have games installed if you select Workstation install?". I think this comment makes sense: shouldn't games only be installed on a Personal Desktop and not a WORKstation? Wouldn't most companies prefer their employees not play games on their WORKstation?
I think KDE games and GNOME games need their own folders. I've been doing this using alacarte, but it should come as a default
FC7 test 4 still has 16 games in the Games menu when booting as live CD. A good thing is that none of these games require a 3d graphic cards. At first glance: -Some of these games I feel are of substandard quality or not simple enough for quick games (Nibbles, Robots, Klotski, Iagno, Tali). -Some seem only variant on the same theme [Same GNOME, Five or More, Four-in-a-row] -Klondike and Freecell appear twice in the menu, but they are the same app From these, I would only keep -Mines -GNOME Sudoku, -Chess -Freecell solitaire/Klondike, -Mahjongg -Tetravex -Same GNOME. I think these seven games easy to play, nice and cover a sufficient variety of gameplay. Objectively, we could probably look at a site such as The Linux Game Tome (http://www.happypenguin.org/) to compare ratings, but at the moment that site seems slow...
Fedora 8 has now 17 games with the addition of GnomeFallingBlocks, a poorly made Tetris. Otherwise, comment #7 still applies. I tried looking at ratings from happypenguin for these games, but there are insufficient ratings to make it useful.
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