Bug 165803 - cimserver should not be running by default
Summary: cimserver should not be running by default
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Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4
Classification: Red Hat
Component: tog-pegasus   
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Version: 4.0
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
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Assignee: Jason Vas Dias
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Keywords: Regression
: 165880 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2005-08-12 13:34 UTC by Joe Orton
Modified: 2007-11-30 22:07 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

Fixed In Version: RHBA-2006-0474
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Last Closed: 2006-11-22 17:22:55 UTC
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Description Joe Orton 2005-08-12 13:34:02 UTC
Description of problem:
We don't normally make deamons run by default unless they are really essential.
  Why is cimserver running by default in U2?

This impacts the security profile of the distribution since the daemon listens
on *:5989 by default.

Comment 2 Jason Vas Dias 2005-08-12 16:58:47 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Why is this package installed into /opt, unlike all the rest of the
> distribution?  
  Because all upstream tog-pegasus releases install into /opt, and there
  are hundreds of references to /opt throughout the code.
  It would be a major change to install tog-pegasus elsewhere, which would
  also require applications using tog-pegasus that include references to /opt
  to change also. 
> It looks like this package has not gone through basic review.

  What do you mean by "basic review" ? It has passed QA testing.
> - daemon is running by default, it really should not be
  Yes, it should. If users decide to install tog-pegasus, then they
  expect the daemon to be running.

> - installs into /opt, very bad -- completely non-standard packaging
  Where is the "standard" defined ? 
  What is "bad" or non-functional about it ?

>   (so trivial things like e.g. "man cimserver" don't even work)

  # /opt/sbin/settogpath
  # . /etc/profile
  # man cimserver
cimserver(8)                                                       cimserver(8)
       cimserver - start or stop the CIM Server; display the version number of
the CIM Server

> - basic init script output is funky
  Define "funky" . If you mean bug 165805, it is now fixed.

> - no separate of development package into -devel
  There is the tog-pegasus-sdk package. 
> - %post is *logging* the installation of the package? eww
  Please clarify .
  I can find no code in the %post script that invokes /usr/bin/logger or
  generates log messages - except for the initscript condrestart that
  is done if upgrading from an existing package.

> - %pre looks like is doing some migration thing, weird since we've never shipped
> a previous version
  The %pre script will migrate an existing repository, IF it exists.
  The .spec file is not specific to the first installation of a package;
  it must also deal with cases where the package is being upgraded.

> - %post is creating symlinks for libraries which should be packaged.
  The library symlinks are required to allow programs to link to generic
  *.so names, rather than *.so.X.X... names.

> I'm sure the list will go on.
  If you have any other issues with tog-pegasus, please let me know.

I can find no issue in the above list which constitutes a problem with the 
correct functioning or operation of the tog-pegasus package.

Hence this bug is being closed as NOTABUG.

Comment 3 Jason Vas Dias 2005-08-12 17:10:06 UTC
Another point to do with the title of this bug: 
   "cimserver should not be running by default"
I think it should be running by default, since the expected use of this package
is to control large installations of many machines which will probably be
installed in an automated manner (eg. with kickstart), and it would be a major
pain for administrators to have to log in to each client to enable the cimserver.

I don't think that the tog-pegasus package should be INSTALLED by default; 
only users with a specific requirement for OpenPegasus WBEM/CIM support should
install this package.

I'll contact the anaconda team to see about getting tog-pegasus installed
optionally .

Comment 4 Joe Orton 2005-08-13 14:53:42 UTC
Most of the rest of our upstream packages will install into /usr/local/* by
default.  One of the basic values of making a Linux distribution is that you
package everything *consistently* rather than by "just what upstream does". 
Should we install all our daemons into /usr/local because that's "just what
upstream does"?  No.  Likewise /opt.  /opt is for third-party stuff.  Once we
package ship it in RHEL core it's not third-party any more and we must apply Red
Hat packaging standards.

Using "-sdk" rather than "-devel" for the development headers is again
inconsistent with the rest of the distribution.

"installed" does not imply "daemon running by default", especially for
network-facing daemons which run as root.  Users should be required to
"chkconfig tog-pegasus on" if they want it running.

Split off scriptlet issues to bug 165880.

Comment 5 Jason Vas Dias 2005-08-18 02:35:01 UTC
*** Bug 165880 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 6 Jason Vas Dias 2005-08-19 17:43:24 UTC
I thought this comment was added on Wednesday - I must not have pressed 
the 'Save Changes' button :-(

After re-examining these issues, and those listed in Bug 163880,
they are now all fixed with the new tog-pegasus-2.4.1-2.rhel4 release, 
available from:

I have run the tog-pegasus-test-2.4.1-2.rhel4.rpm on all supported platforms -
all tests passed. 

These changes were made:

1. The tog-pegasus service is no longer enabled by default.
   The %post script no longer does '/usr/lib/lsb/install_initrd tog-pegasus' 
   (chkconfig add), unless the package is installed with 
   "rpm --define 'AUTOSTART 1'" . I added the AUTOSTART 
   new .spec file variable, which is 0 by default, to enable
   automatic enabling of the service when installed via kickstart.

2. tog-pegasus no longer installs into /opt .
   I re-worked the .spec file and changed the hard-coded references to /opt
   in the code .

   Now, tog-pegasus installs into these directories:
   /etc/Pegasus - configuration directory
   /usr/sbin    - daemons
   /usr/bin     - user programs
   /var/run/tog-pegasus/ - pid file and socket file directory 
                           (no more socket/ subdirectory!)
   /var/lib/Pegasus -  cache and repository data
   /usr/lib         -  libraries
   /usr/lib/Pegasus/providers - class provider libraries
   /usr/share/Pegasus  - Managed Object Files (mof), html, SDK samples,
   /var/log/Pegasus    - log files

   If people have separate / and /usr partitions, / is likely to be small
   and to contain /opt. It is probably better going forward to not ship
   the package in /opt.

3. "sdk" subpackage renamed "devel". 
   devel subpackage now Provides the '*.so' library links, rather than
   the main package creating them in %post

4. %postun no longer does any 'rm -rf' 

5. no scriplet does any logging

6. Requires(post) tag added

7. BuildConflicts(tog-pegasus) tag added
   (Package cannot be built if tog-pegasus package is installed)

8. All executables now built with ExecShield enabled 

I think it would be better to start with shipping tog-pegasus-2.4.1-2.rhel4 
rather than tog-pegasus-2.4.1-1 and I suggest we try to get it into the 
RHEL-4-U2 Beta release.

Comment 7 Bill Nottingham 2006-11-22 17:22:55 UTC
An advisory has been issued which should help the problem
described in this bug report. This report is therefore being
closed with a resolution of ERRATA. For more information
on the solution and/or where to find the updated files,
please follow the link below. You may reopen this bug report
if the solution does not work for you.


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