The empathy RPM are missing some core run-time dependencies.
Needs to be installed for the VOIP features to work (including their
This is a problem with the current FC9 prerelease.
Thanks for the bug report. I'll fix this up tonight after class; or someone can
add these two deps before then if so desired. :)
I don't believe the version of stream-engine shipping w/ F9 meets the minimum
requirement for empathy. And since we are in feature freeze for F9, it will be
pushed as an update after our release.
Also, I don't think it make sense to add a hard-dep to empathy, since this can
be a run-time dep.
Brian, maybe it would be best then to move the VoIP-related files from the main
package into a -voip subpackage; then that subpackage can have these
dependencies in addition to the main package of the same EVR.
Well regarding making things a hard dependency or not. I know that one early and
very frequent complaint against GStreamer applications like Totem and Rhythmbox
was that 'nothing' worked without installing 'random' other gstreamer-plugins
packages. I think this is a similar case. And while part of is its empathy's
fault, the problem is that you get zero feedback when you try to connect over
VoIP with empathy when these packages are not installed. So unless you hardcode
the dependency there is no solution other than forum crawling and googling for
figuring out what is missing and needs to be installed.
I would also argue that the people who do install empathy at this point in time
probably do it due to wanting Voip as it don't really offers any chatting
advantages over Pidgin etc.
Been testing and getting help from Rob McQueen today and finally I got VoIP with
telepathy working on my system. In the end I had to upgrade quite a few packages
compared to what is in FC9 currently:
Also Rob pointed out that gstreamer-plugins-farsight
should probably be a requirement for the farsight RPM and not the empathy one.
I also had to add a small patch to telepathy-gabble. Attaching that here.
Finally there is a bug in the GStreamer speex plugins which has a patch, I will
try to get that merged upstream.
Created attachment 304320 [details]
Tiny patch for telepathy-gabble. %patch0 -p0 merge it fine.
Speex patch is currently in this bug:
Christian, thanks for the leg work you did on this. Peter, I'm going to assign
this bug to me, since I was planning to update the tp requirements in F9 next week.
Sounds like a good plan, then.
Let me know once you've got the TP stuff bumped and I can add the dependencies
in Empathy (or you can do so directly if you'd like).
I'll go ahead and do the empathy bit also, since I want these all to be pushed
to bodhi at the same time.
Just thought I should mention that Simon did a new release of telepathy-gabble
yesterday when I mentioned this bug, so we now have:
Updating to this version means the patch attached to this bugzilla entry is no
longer needed as it is in the mainline. I have added another patch though, a
farsight patch. This patch (together with the GStreamer speex fixes) will make
sure one do not sound like Dart Vader when talking using empathy.
Created attachment 304373 [details]
Help fix speex voip to not sound like dart vader
Ok, I've built new version of telepathy-glib, tp-gabble, farsight, gst-farsight,
tp-stream-engine, and empathy. The only thing left is to patch
gst-plugins-good, which I'll do on Monday after touching base with Bastien.
Once that is done, I'll add them all to Bodhi (so they're pushed at the same time).
Here's links to the builds for those interested:
I am not able to do voip with them. When I initiate the call with empathy(linux)
to gtalk(windows), call is terminated as soon as I accept it on the windows. And
when I initiate it from windows to linux, it just shows the ringing status on
On ubuntu, hardy. I am able to do voip with windows box.
telepathy-glib-0.7.6-1.fc9,gstreamer-plugins-farsight-0.12.7-1.fc9,farsight-0.1.27-2.fc9,telepathy-stream-engine-0.5.2-1.fc9,telepathy-gabble-0.7.4-1.fc9,empathy-0.23.1-1.fc9 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 9
farsight-0.1.27-2.fc9, telepathy-glib-0.7.6-1.fc9, telepathy-stream-engine-0.5.2-1.fc9, gstreamer-plugins-farsight-0.12.7-1.fc9, telepathy-gabble-0.7.4-1.fc9, empathy-0.23.1-1.fc9 has been pushed to the Fedora 9 testing repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
If you want to test the update, you can install it with
su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update farsight telepathy-glib telepathy-stream-engine gstreamer-plugins-farsight telepathy-gabble empathy'. You can provide feedback for this update here: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-3639
Changing version to '9' as part of upcoming Fedora 9 GA.
More information and reason for this action is here:
farsight-0.1.27-2.fc9, telepathy-glib-0.7.6-1.fc9, telepathy-stream-engine-0.5.2-1.fc9, gstreamer-plugins-farsight-0.12.7-1.fc9, telepathy-gabble-0.7.4-1.fc9, empathy-0.23.1-1.fc9 has been pushed to the Fedora 9 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
Ok, tested again now with updated packages. There are still a few remaining
issues. First of all the gstreamer-plugins-farsight package links against
jrtplib, which actually makes it not work. This package needs to be built with
'--disable-jrtlib', I will work to make that the default for the next release.
The other problem is as mentioned above that the Speex RTP support in current
GStreamer is broken. The next gst-plugins-good (which should be 0.10.9) should
have the needed speex RTP fixes. The issue with speex only triggers when speex
is negotiated as the protocol though.
As a workaround: As long as it's known that speex doesn't work on fedora you can
disable it in farsight by editting /etc/farsight/gstcodecs.conf and setting
id=-1 for speex.
So change what looks in the default config something like:
This will make farsight ignore speex as a codec