Bug 461825 - Disabling gpk-update-icon on live images not working anymore
Summary: Disabling gpk-update-icon on live images not working anymore
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: gnome-packagekit
Version: rawhide
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Richard Hughes
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
: 465678 (view as bug list)
Depends On:
Blocks: F10Blocker, F10FinalBlocker F10Preview F10DesktopBlocker
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
Reported: 2008-09-10 20:34 UTC by Jeremy Katz
Modified: 2008-10-10 17:27 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

Clone Of:
Last Closed: 2008-10-07 16:36:12 UTC

Attachments (Terms of Use)
pk getting active on a livecd of todays rawhide (184.71 KB, image/png)
2008-10-03 17:45 UTC, Matthias Clasen
no flags Details
gconf settings (87.36 KB, image/png)
2008-10-03 18:19 UTC, Matthias Clasen
no flags Details

Description Jeremy Katz 2008-09-10 20:34:27 UTC
In Fedora 9, by creating ~/.config/autostart/gpk-update-icon.desktop with X-GNOME-Autostart=false, we were able to stop gpk-update-icon from starting on login to the live image (since you generally don't want to apply updates)

What's the right way to do this now?

Comment 1 Richard Hughes 2008-09-12 06:39:20 UTC

Untick "PackageKit Update Applet"

Does that work? I'm a little unclear how the live cd "works" -- i.e. are you allowwed to make package changes? If there's an environment variable set, I can key of that and not load.

Comment 2 Jeremy Katz 2008-09-12 13:16:47 UTC
That works.  So maybe gnome-session has changed what it's looking for matching/validity

As for how the live image works, we do some munging at boot time (so that it doesn't persist to the installed system) of gconf keys or desktop files for things like this.  And while you could key off of something in the live environment, I've tried to keep it such that packages don't have to make changes, just because they're the sort of things that end up being hacks not acceptable to upstream.

Comment 3 Richard Hughes 2008-09-12 13:46:15 UTC
What are you actuall trying to disable? Wouldn't it just be okay to just set the following to false:


and set to "never":


This way the applet will still be running (and show some UI if the user tries to install anything) but won't actually try to do anything by itself.


Comment 4 Jeremy Katz 2008-09-12 14:06:22 UTC
That's fine if it works now -- it didn't in the lead-up to F9 and so switching to just not starting was suggested in that discussion

I'll try setting them when I can actually build an image again (inconsistent rawhide repo currently) and let you know

Comment 5 Richard Hughes 2008-09-12 15:12:29 UTC
If it does stuff with those keys set, open a bug and I give you permissions to use all CAPS in the subject line :-)

I'll fix that sort of bug pretty quick, but I think all the time based ones are fixed now.

Comment 6 Jeremy Katz 2008-09-14 20:05:08 UTC
I'm still seeing metadata being downloaded when the network connection becomes available, which I wouldn't necessarily expect.  This basically means a hit of 30+ megs of "memory" usage by the RAM-based r/w disk overlay.  

I don't seem to be getting notified, though, which is good :-)

Comment 7 Matthias Clasen 2008-10-02 01:10:34 UTC
When you uncheck the packagekit icon in the session capplet, it writes a desktop file hust like you describe, in


with the line


so your F9 code should still work.

Comment 8 Jeremy Katz 2008-10-02 01:15:24 UTC
Ah, but ~/.local/share/autostart is different than ~/.config/autostart -- which is correct?

Also, I'm not sure if we really want it in the gdm session in general

Comment 9 Matthias Clasen 2008-10-02 02:16:16 UTC
Ah, sorry. I have that mixed up. It actually is ~/.config/autostart

As for the gdm session (ie the login screen), that is controlled by
and doesn't include gpk-update-icon

Comment 10 Jeremy Katz 2008-10-02 03:17:59 UTC
Something is clearly a little off then.. it wasn't working a few weeks ago.  May have been due to other gnome-session problems at the time.  

Definitely worth building some images with current rawhide and checking again

Comment 11 Matthias Clasen 2008-10-02 14:58:32 UTC
But where is the code to turn of gpk-update-icon ? 
I don't see it in fedora-livecd-desktop.ks in the spin-kickstarts repo

Comment 12 Jeremy Katz 2008-10-02 15:10:31 UTC
It's in fedora-live-base.ks

Comment 13 Matthias Clasen 2008-10-02 16:40:54 UTC
No, thats code that modifies pk defaults - in a  questionable way, if I may say so, since that will cause the same settings to go in the installation, no ?

The code to write an autostart desktop file for gpk-update-icon is not there anymore

Comment 14 Jeremy Katz 2008-10-02 17:04:08 UTC
No, it's done in the initscript and the install copies over the pristine image without any changes that were made.

And the code to write the autostart file got pulled out when hughsie above said that it wasn't the way he'd suggest doing it.

Comment 15 J Gallagher 2008-10-03 07:45:41 UTC
PackageKit should NOT be notifying updates to the user in the LiveCD.

In Fedora 10 Beta LiveCD (Gnome) it notifies me of 331 pending updates. That is ridiculous (and potentially harmful if you have a persistence overlay enabled since such a large update will usually corrupt the overlay) 

This needs urgent fixing before preview release.

Comment 16 Matthias Clasen 2008-10-03 17:45:24 UTC
Created attachment 319396 [details]
pk getting active on a livecd of todays rawhide

Comment 17 Matthias Clasen 2008-10-03 18:19:56 UTC
Created attachment 319401 [details]
gconf settings 

Maybe some of those enable_ settings should be false ?

Comment 18 Matthias Clasen 2008-10-03 18:20:59 UTC
Also, can I point out here that showing that firmware path in the ui is really bad form ?

Comment 19 Jeremy Katz 2008-10-06 13:42:27 UTC
*** Bug 465678 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 20 Matthias Clasen 2008-10-07 16:36:12 UTC
Should be fixed in the current .ks files, by setting more gconf keys.

Comment 21 Richard Hughes 2008-10-10 17:27:46 UTC
Another fix built as http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=873534 -- in rawhide tomorrow.

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