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This monitor has an unusual aspect ratio (110 dpi, 1600x1024). It's awkard to configure it without the right data. Attached is the XFree86-4 magic with all the data. It would be nice to see this in anaconda's database next time (where does that database come from anyway)?
Created attachment 41811 [details] SGI 1600SW configuration file for X
anaconda just uses the information from Xconfigurator; reassigning to Mike
I can have these modelines built into XFree86 itself, which might be a cleaner solution. If you have the Windows .inf file for this monitor, please attach it, and I can have it autodetected also.
Created attachment 43434 [details] Windows .inf file from Nine Revolution IV-FP install
This monitor supports three systems: 1) 3DLabs Oxygen VX1-1600SW, direct digital 2) Nine Revolution IV-FP, direct digital 3) Any analog card that can output 1600x1200 (wide format).
Correction. Make that: 3) Any analog card that can output 1600x1024, 60Hz. While you're adding widescreen monitors to the databases, might as well hit this one: http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/ss5/home/displaymonitors/professionalseries/gdm-fw900_specs.shtml Panoramic 16:10 aspect ratio Horizontal Scan Range: 30kHz - 121kHz Vertical Scan Range: 48Hz - 160Hz Maximum Resolution: 2304 x 1440 Recommended Resolution: 1920 x 1200 @ 85Hz This monitor gets a lot of professional use, and shows up in operations centers all the time.
Gentlemen, I too have the SGI 1600sw flatplanel with the number-nine card. I have long been waiting for this panel to be included in your distribution. XFree86 4.1.0 has support for this monitor but Xconfigurator does not. I have had to place the appropriate mode lines in by hand for several years now. My current dilema is that I have configured the XF86Config-4 and can run X but when logging out, my screen gets corrupted and I must power down (rather than shut down gracefully) to take the system down. I find that X fails to reset the monitor properly when logging out and the monitor actually loses sync. Brice, have you discovered this problem. Redhat 7.1 allows me to use startx from init mode 3 and logout, bringing me back to a prompt where I can halt the system. But Redhat 7.2 corrupts my monitor so characters are unreadable. In both cases, Xdm fails to logout properly and reinitiate for the next user. Any help here would be greatly appreciated. I would be glad to test fixes if you have them and can put them in rpm format where I can download them.
I don't know how to solve the bug causing the corrupt console, but inserting "vga=808" as kernel parameter will make it go away. You'll get a framebuffer for the linux console: # grub.conf generated by anaconda title Red Hat Linux (2.4.9-21debug) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.9-21debug ro root=/dev/hde8 hda=ide-scsi vga=808 initrd /initrd-2.4.9-21debug.img But the first step is for RedHat to add the monitor to the database. Then, at least, people know that using this monitor is possible.
Gentlemen, Upon further investigation I have discovered that the problems with corrupted consoles when logging out of my Xsession seem to be associated with the KDE desktop. When using the GNOME desktop, the problem does not exist. Bryce, using the vga=808 kernel parameter made only one small difference. That is, it allowed me to logout of KDE cleanly if I came up in initmode of 3 and then performed a startx.. Then when logging out, KDE would bring me back to the console window (text mode) cleanly. However, this mode does nothing for xdm. Mharris, how would you like me to proceed with this? Classify and refile as another bug? A KDE bug?
Dunno if this issue is still relevant in Red Hat Linux 9, but I've reassigned it to the proper component for investigation, etc.
*** Bug 90870 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
>Created an attachment (id=43434) >Windows .inf file from Nine Revolution IV-FP install That is the .INF file for the _video card_, not the one for the monitor, so it is of no use to me. The reason that this monitor is not autodetected properly, is because nobody has ever submitted the proper information which is needed in order for it to be added to the database. Someone out there with one of these monitors must have the floppy disk or CDROM that comes with the monitor, or can track down the proper files on the appropriate website on the net somewhere for this monitor. When someone tracks down the proper Windows .INF file for the _monitor_ itself, I will gladly add this monitor to the MonitorsDB database. I generally process all requests such as this one or two times during a development cycle (one is right now). If someone attaches it very soon, it has a high chance of getting into the next database update. Thanks.
I bought the monitor and #9 card direct from SGI. I don't remember the monitor coming with its own floppy or cd-rom. In fact the card doesn't have one either. A few other people claim to have gotten the combo to work, but I've tried their mode lines with only partial success.
I think modelines by themselves aren't enough. I have modelines that worked for somebody else but don't work for me.
Which complicates things significantly. Getting modelines wrong or getting monitor database data wrong can physically destroy some monitors. I do not wish to include random modelines in the server or in our config tools. I need to have some level of guarantee that user supplied data is valid and within the ranges of the hardware. If I stuff some data in which happens to work for someone, and ends up blowing up a lab full of these things, it wouldn't look very good for Red Hat.
Created attachment 91717 [details] .INF Monitor Profile for SGI 1600SW This is downloaded from <http://www.alexia-media.com/sgi320/> which I find through a Google search on ".inf" and "1600sw". It was supposedly downloaded from the Number Nine site before Number Nine shut down.
Gentlemen, First, I have the original SGI cdrom to install the Revolution IV for SGI. It is the only CD that comes with the SGI 1600SW for NT systems. I will be happy to make a copy and send it to someone. Please email me a name and address and I will send it immediately. Second, the correct modelines for this monitor are documented with the XFree86 documentation. You can find the settings at the following URL: http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0 Click on the "Information for Number Nine I128 Users" link Then Click on the "Mode lines for the Silicon Graphics flat panel display:" link These settings work for me. BTW, I would be happy to send a copy of my Redhat 9 /etc/X11/XF86config file. It works beautifully. This would verify the settings. Additionally, I would be happy to beta test the monitor database entry for the SGI 1600SW as well. Finally, the other problem I reported in this bug report (where my system froze when using xdm or gdm has been fixed in release 9. It was a problem I tracked down to the I128 driver for XFree86 and has nothing to do with the monitor. Thanks for fixing that bug
Following is my /etc/X11/XF86Config file for RH 9. It works VERY well. I do not use the SGI Multilink Adapter. I connect my SGI 1600SW Flat Panel directly into the digital connection of the Number 9 Revolution IV card. Also, note the HorizSync of 31.5-125 and the VertRefresh of 60-150. Also note, these are the modelines documented in XFree86.org in my previous message. So, they are formally documented and they do work. # XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe"file:///usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option "XkbDisable" # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # or: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" # Or if you just want both to be control, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" # Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then # this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you # also use USB mice at the same time. Identifier "DevInputMice" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "Monitor" # SGI Flat Panel mode lines # 1600x12024d32 Modeline "1600x1024d32" 103.125 1600 1600 1656 1664 1024 1024 1029 1030 HSkew 7 +Hsync +Vsync # 1600x12024d16 Modeline "1600x1024d16" 103.125 1600 1600 1656 1664 1024 1024 1029 1030 HSkew 5 +Hsync +Vsync # 1600x12024d08 Modeline "1600x1024d08" 103.125 1600 1600 1656 1664 1024 1024 1029 1030 HSkew 1 +Hsync +Vsync # 800x512d32 Modeline "800x512d32" 54.375 800 800 840 848 512 512 514 515 HSkew 7 DoubleScan +Hsync +Vsync # 800x512d16 Modeline "800x512d16" 54.375 800 800 840 848 512 512 514 515 HSkew 5 DoubleScan +Hsync +Vsync # 800x512d08 Modeline "800x512d08" 54.375 800 800 840 848 512 512 514 515 HSkew 1 DoubleScan +Hsync +Vsync Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "SGI" ModelName "SGI 1600SW" HorizSync 31.5 - 125 VertRefresh 60 - 150 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "i128" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "Number Nine Revolution IV (T2R4)" VideoRam 32768 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 # SubSection "Display" # Depth 24 # Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" # EndSubSection Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Option "dac_8_bit" Modes "1600x1024d08" "800x512d08" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1600 1024 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Option "dac_8_bit" Modes "1600x1024d16" "800x512d16" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1600 1024 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Option "dac_8_bit" Modes "1600x1024d32" "800x512d32" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1600 1024 EndSubsection EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection
Gentlemen, I have created a copy of the SGI cdrom that installs both the # 9 card and the SGI flatpanel. In it I have found the sgi.inf file that was asked for. I append it here. If you require the cdrom, simply let me know whom to send it to and the address and I will send it immediately. ;----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; SGIFPD.INF ;----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; Revision History: ; ; 00.01.00 SEP 23, 1998 Initial Revision ; 00.01.01 NOV 10, 1998 Added DefaultDestDir. ;----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; Copyright 1998 Number Nine Visual Technology Corporation ;----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Version] InfVersion = 01.02 signature = "$CHICAGO$" Class = Monitor ClassGUID = {4d36e96e-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318} Provider = %SGI% [Manufacturer] %SGI% = SGI [ClassInstall32] AddReg = ClassAddReg32 [ClassAddReg32] HKR,,,,%MonitorClassName% HKR,,Icon,,"-1" HKR,,NoInstallClass,,1 [SGIFPD.AddReg] HKR,,DPMS,,1 HKR,,MaxResolution,,"1600,1024" HKR,"MODES\640,400",Mode1, ,"30.0,60.0,+,+" HKR,"MODES\640,480",Mode1, ,"31.5,60.0,+,+" HKR,"MODES\800,512",Mode1, ,"35.0,60.0,+,+" HKR,"MODES\800,600",Mode1, ,"37.7,60.0,+,+" HKR,"MODES\1024,768",Mode1, ,"48.4,60.0,+,+" HKR,"MODES\1152,864",Mode1, ,"54.3,60.0,+,+" HKR,"MODES\1280,1024",Mode1,,"64.0,60.0,+,+" HKR,"MODES\1600,1024",Mode1,,"72.0,60.0,+,+" HKR,,ICMProfile,0,"SGI5000K.icm" HKR,,ICMProfile,0,"SGI5500K.icm" HKR,,ICMProfile,0,"SGI6500K.icm" [SGI] %SGIFPD% = SGIFPD.Install, Monitor\SGX0640 [SGIFPD.Install] CopyFiles = SGI.CopyFiles DelReg = DEL_CURRENT_REG AddReg = SGIFPD.AddReg [DEL_CURRENT_REG] HKR,MODES HKR,,MaxResolution HKR,,DPMS HKR,,ICMProfile [DestinationDirs] DefaultDestDir = 11 SGI.CopyFiles = 23 [SourceDisksNames] 1 = %SGIDiskNameStr%,, [SourceDisksFiles] SGI5000K.icm = 1 SGI5500K.icm = 1 SGI6500K.icm = 1 [SGI.CopyFiles] SGI5000K.icm SGI5500K.icm SGI6500K.icm [Strings] NNVTCstr = "Number Nine Visual Technology" SGI = "Silicon Graphics Inc." SGIFPD = "Silicon Graphics 1600SW FP" SGIDiskNameStr = "Revolution IV Windows Driver" MonitorClassName = "Monitor"
Created attachment 91972 [details] This is the sgi.inf file from the SGI cdrom to install both the #9 card AND the SGI 1600SW Flat Panel Monitor. I can send the SGI cdrom if it is required.
Created attachment 91973 [details] This is my RH 9 /etc/X11/XF86Config file. It has the correct Modelines as well as horizsync and vertrefresh settings. Note: The modeline settings are exactly those documented in the XFree86.org documentation to which I direct your attention above.
Reopening and reassinging to hwdata component/owner for FC3 development cycle.
comment #6 is incorrect, this monitor has no analog inputs. There was some kind of $500 box you could buy for it that converted analog VGA to the monitor's digital signal, but I don't have that box.
By the way, thanks for reopening this, and for posting those xf86 files. I'll drag the monitor out of the closet and try them soon.
The SGI flat panel is already in MonitorsDB.
Up to and including RH 9, Anaconda failed to recognize and set up the monitor properly for installs, let alone for proper X configuration. Remember, the SGI 1600SW flat panel connects to a digital port on the NumberNine card. In order to install RH on my systems, I first had to connect a CRT to the NumberNine VGA port, install RH, reinstall the SGI panel, boot up to level 3, configure the /etc/XF86Config file for X, then reboot the system to level 5. Will Anaconda now recognize the monitor and configure properly for installs and X now that it is in the MonitorsDB? If so, at what release should I expect this to work? Is it in the current release of Fedora?
We do not have access to the hardware described in this bug report in order to test wether it works with our installer or not, so it's essentially up to someone who does to test it and provide feedback. Hopefully it works for you if you test it. If it does not work however, it is unlikely that we would add support for it at this stage due to the legacy of the hardware, as the number of people who would benefit from it would be extremely low. If it does not work however, and you decide to hack up support for it for anaconda, please feel free to submit a new request against the anaconda component with patches attached and someone will review them for consideration in a future release.