Bug 353721
| Summary: | No fonts for the Romanian national characters | ||
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| Product: | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 | Reporter: | Răzvan Sandu <rsandu2004> |
| Component: | dejavu-lgc-fonts | Assignee: | Behdad Esfahbod <behdad> |
| Status: | CLOSED UPSTREAM | QA Contact: | desktop-bugs <desktop-bugs> |
| Severity: | high | Docs Contact: | |
| Priority: | low | ||
| Version: | 5.4 | CC: | alexxed, b.rahul.pm, eng-i18n-bugs, petersen |
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Target Release: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | All | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| URL: | http://www.secarica.ro | ||
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| Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | Bug Fix | |
| Doc Text: | Story Points: | --- | |
| Clone Of: | Environment: | ||
| Last Closed: | 2008-02-24 19:32:11 UTC | Type: | --- |
| Regression: | --- | Mount Type: | --- |
| Documentation: | --- | CRM: | |
| Verified Versions: | Category: | --- | |
| oVirt Team: | --- | RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host: | |
| Cloudforms Team: | --- | Target Upstream Version: | |
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| Bug Blocks: | 329071, 337271, 376231 | ||
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Description
Răzvan Sandu
2007-10-26 08:33:38 UTC
Does this means that, the characters are present and shown but have wrong shapes(I guess the bottom part only)? I'm a bit confused as there are fonts in X that do contain the correct characters for the romanian language. Also there is a correct romanian keymap in X. And Fedora/Redhat packs X from xorg so is this really an issue ? I'm working on another bug 253892 to include a font for the TEXT mode. There isn't one now that contains the correct characters. Is that what's reported wrong here ? Hello, Here's the piece of information Rahul asked for in comment #1: IMHO, there is a chain of issues here (please see comments to the other related bugs too): - there is no font to represent correctly some of the Romanian-specific characters (the correct s,t, S, T with comma below instead of the incorrect s,t, S, T with cedilla below); - because of this, there is no correct implementation for the Romanian keyboard (by "correct implementation" I mean one that a. reflects the layout of the physical Romanian keyboards and b. generates s and t with comma below) - because of the above, there are various confusions and incompatibilities in all programs, both in text mode and X - some programs use cedilla characters instead of their comma counterparts, there are incompatibilities even in Unicode-aware programs, crashes in anaconda (see bug #376231), etc. Someone please: - drop for good those cedilla s and t, which *doesn't* exist in Romanian language (it's a historical mistake that has been propagated); - create a font with s and t with comma (or include it in Fedora, if it already exist), with the proper Unicode codes (see correct codes above); - use the new font with s and t with comma as *default font* for Romanian language, in all programs, in both text and X mode; - allow for the creation of the correct two arrangements for the Romanian keyboard, as established by the Romanian official standard (please see bug #337271). - update anaconda and system-config-keyboard to correctly take into account the new settings for Romanian, in both text mode and X. IMHO, the *default* arrangement for the Romanian keyboards in any Linux distribution should be the one designated as "secondary" in the national standard, since it can be used more easily even when one don't have a *physical* Romanian keyboard, but an English-US one. Many thanks, Răzvan For the text mode, solutions are presented in bug 253892. For X, the only thing to do now is to make the comma variant the default one. But that is a thing to do in xorg (xkb actually), not here. In X there are fonts and there are keymaps with cedilla as well as with comma. The glyphs for the Romanian characters mentioned here actually come from Dejavu and bitmap fonts. ISO8859-2 encoding itself does not cover these characters, thus fonts-ISO8859-2 does not have glyphs for them. Thus I am reassigning the bug to DejaVu fonts. As far as fonts are concerned the glyphs in DejaVu font are incorrect. Unicode has encoded the said characters with bottom 'comma' on the expected code points. Thus there is no issue about encoding at all. Its only a font issue. Secondly, bitmap fonts are available for text mode usage. But I don't think its possible to improve the shapes for the bitmaps any further due to the limitations of resolution. I could not find the keyboard layout in scim for Romanian. If that is the case, there should be separate bug filed against scim for having the required tables. Lastly, since ISO8859-2 does not cover these Romanian characters, I don't think the fonts-ISO8859-2 should be included in comps for Romanian support. Jens, can you help on that? Actually ISO8859-16 covers Romanian characters, but I don't know if that's shipped. Atleast not as a part of Romanian Support. But there must be other fonts covering that range. Hello, Can we hope this will be fixed for good in the new versions, say Fedora 9 ? IMHO, the correct way to follow is that presented in comment #3. Many thanks, Răzvan Please report this against dejavu fonts upstream at: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ I checked on F8 and those characters have a comma below, not a cedilla. So I think this is already fixed. The issue about Romanian incorrectly-generated characters was recently corrected in bug #13277 at freedesktop.org. Please see comments #82 and #83, with the appropriate patch: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13277 Would you please include this correction in Red Hat/Fedora ASAP, since it affects *thousands* of documents and webpages generated in Romanian language ? Thanks a lot, Răzvan This historical bug regarding Romanian language is also corrected in Microsoft Windows Vista and, by this patch, in Windows XP: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ec6f335-c3de-44c5-a13d-a1e7cea5ddea&DisplayLang=en Răzvan |