Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 737339
Grub menu is shown even for single OS installations
Last modified: 2015-07-15 11:14:10 EDT
With the switch to grub2 we now always show the bootloader (even when no other OS is installed) and have a timeout of 20 seconds.
This is a regression compared to grub1 where we just booted directly in that case.
This results into longer boot times and kills the "flicker free" boot.
I have played a bit with it ... it seems that setting GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET and then recreating the config is supposed to achieve that ... but it seems that this is mostly ignored. I will show a "Welcome to grub" screen and then switch to the default grub menu instead of directly booting the OS.
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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 727831 ***
(In reply to comment #3)
> *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 727831 ***
That's not a dupe.
The other bug has been fixed by just making the timeout shorter but the issue here is that we do show the menu *at all* , which breaks "flicker free boot".
(In reply to comment #4)
That's not a bug. It's more like a feature.
If you think it's a bug in the default installation, better report this against anaconda, the installer.
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> That's not a bug. It's more like a feature.
(In reply to comment #6)
> If you think it's a bug in the default installation, better report this against
> anaconda, the installer.
It requires anaconda changes to be fully fixed but we have to fix grub first (to use keystatus to allow interacting with it by holding down shift).
Here you should get help:
Due to the recent change of the package maintainer, I am wondering if someone feels responsible at all for such an important package. Otherwise, grub2 usage has to be removed and grub1 be kept for the default installation - as stated at "Contingency Plan".
pjones is taking care of grub2. that's why this bug is assigned to him.
I can't reproduce this behaviour with Fedora 16 Beta RC4 Xfce live and installed.
Discussed at 2011-10-07 blocker review meeting. Rejected as a blocker bug and NTH: it does not hit any criteria and we would not want to poke this after the freeze.
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Still the case even in rawhide.
pjones, any plans to do anything about this at any point?
> pjones, any plans to do anything about this at any point?
Not really, no. This is something grub2 doesn't do, and the patch for grub1 didn't do very well. If somebody contributes a patch upstream, that'd be fine, but it's unlikely we'd want it by default.
Ah, now I read back, the report is a bit more complex than I thought.
I wasn't thinking about the 'flicker free boot' thing, just the simple fact that anaconda no longer sets the timeout to 0 for single-boot installs. That's something we can fix if we choose to, right? Though of course there's the giant bikeshed thread about it ATM.
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this is still valid, i.e., we still don't default to hiding the menu in non-multiboot cases as we did with grub-legacy. Still a question whether changing it is desired.
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 23 development cycle.
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