I've been trying to create a usb stick as documented here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB#How_to_Make_a_bootable_USB_Drive_to_Install_Fedora_instead_of_using_a_physical_DVD It isn't working for me. I've tried 16.11 on F16, and the latest koji build for F17: [root@ankur ~]# time livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr /home/ankur/Downloads/torrents/rtorrent_completed/Fedora-17-ISOs/Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD/Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso /dev/sdc1 Verifying image... /home/ankur/Downloads/torrents/rtorrent_completed/Fedora-17-ISOs/Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD/Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso: 6fc130f583fa21eb76d2cddf4d9aea38 Fragment sums: e22b92c4cdd5f9bf184aba6842639c68d64bc6f7c1ea6b2934ad94fdd758 Fragment count: 20 Press [Esc] to abort check. Checking: 100.0% The media check is complete, the result is: PASS. It is OK to use this media. /Packages found, will copy source .iso to target Copying live image to target device. squashfs.img 130367488 100% 68.22MB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 130383477 bytes received 31 bytes 52153403.20 bytes/sec total size is 130367488 speedup is 1.00 Copying /home/ankur/Downloads/torrents/rtorrent_completed/Fedora-17-ISOs/Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD/Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso 2484076544 100% 32.75MB/s 0:01:12 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 2484379867 bytes received 31 bytes 30861862.09 bytes/sec total size is 2484076544 speedup is 1.00 Updating boot config file Installing boot loader Target device is now set up with a Live image! real 2m23.436s user 0m29.862s sys 0m14.078s [root@ankur ~]# [root@ankur ~]# ls -a /run/media/ankur/LIVE/ . .. LiveOS syslinux [root@ankur ~]# df -lh Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs 30G 8.0G 21G 29% / devtmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /dev tmpfs 1.9G 952K 1.9G 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 1.9G 1.9M 1.9G 1% /run /dev/sda6 30G 8.0G 21G 29% / tmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /media /dev/sdb3 176G 160G 7.3G 96% /mnt/Stuff /dev/sdb1 99G 42G 52G 45% /mnt/Ankur Backup /dev/sda2 30G 21G 7.7G 73% /mnt/Other /dev/sdb2 21G 20G 221M 99% /mnt/NTFS Temp /dev/sda8 206G 189G 6.6G 97% /mnt/Miscellaneous /dev/sda5 196G 141G 46G 76% /home /dev/sda3 510M 93M 392M 20% /boot /dev/sdc1 3.8G 153M 3.7G 4% /run/media/ankur/LIVE [root@ankur ~]# Uploading (2.8KiB)... Error Uploading: INTERNAL SERVER ERROR [root@ankur ~]# rpm -q livecd-tools livecd-tools-17.8-1.fc17.x86_64 [root@ankur ~]# Since what's given in the docs doesnt work, this should be a blocker IMO.
It looks like the wiki needs to be updated. You should use --format the first time you create the USB stick and when it is done you should see 2 partitions on the USB stick, one labeled LIVE and the other LIVE-REPO
Created attachment 578433 [details] output from litd when passing in --format and single partition I tried the following command on F16 using livecd-tools-16.11 and an 8GB USB stick that had a single 8GB FAT32 partition on it: livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr /home/tflink/fedora_images/17b_rc4/Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso /dev/sdd1 It does create 2 partitions (LIVE and LIVE-REPO) but the command used by the reporter didn't include --format This is a problem because the documentation doesn't include --format as an option https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB#How_to_Make_a_bootable_USB_Drive_to_Install_Fedora_instead_of_using_a_physical_DVD
(In reply to comment #1) > It looks like the wiki needs to be updated. You should use --format the first > time you create the USB stick and when it is done you should see 2 partitions > on the USB stick, one labeled LIVE and the other LIVE-REPO Would it be possible to show an error if --format isn't used and the second partition isn't created? Looking at the output, there is no reason to believe that anything failed unless you're looking very closely at the resultant USB drive
(In reply to comment #1) > It looks like the wiki needs to be updated. You should use --format the first > time you create the USB stick and when it is done you should see 2 partitions > on the USB stick, one labeled LIVE and the other LIVE-REPO I'll explain why this is not the correct solution. The command on the wiki page worked. Since it was on the wiki page, it is what maximum people used. By maximum people, I mean common users, who google and refer to the docs. These do not have to be advanced users, and they do not have to be fedora community folks who know the current status of livecd-tools. --format is an __optional__ argument. It is __not__ compulsory. This is what the description for livecd-iso-to-disk says: (livecd-iso-to-disk --help) "Unless you request the --format option, the installation does not destroy data outside of the LiveOS, syslinux, & EFI folders on your target device. This allows one to maintain other files on the target disk outside of the LiveOS filesystem." It speaks for itself really. A user should not be forced to destroy his/her data on the USB media. What if someone wants to use an external USB HDD and not a tiny USB stick? A live iso is 700MB, the beta iso was 2.6gigs. Formatting even an 8gig pen drive is overkill IMO. The previous version required __one__ partition, that should be marked bootable, and should have sufficient space. This is a loss of functionality in my book. I request that the behaviour be reverted to what it originally was. A certain BLOCKER in my book. Ankur
Well, there are a couple of things going on here. 1. There *is* a bug with writing DVD's right now -- if you don't use --format it ends up copying the iso into / of the host system. I'll fix this today. But the first time you setup your USB stick to use F17 DVD's you will need to use --format, there is no way to avoid that. If --format isn't used and there is no 2nd partition setup it should print an error and exit. 2. With a livecd.iso install your comments are correct. Only 1 partition is needed. 3. Because of changes in Anaconda for F17 it is no longer able to use the partition it booted from as a source for the .iso, so this needs to be written to a second partition. The wiki needs to be updated to make this situation clear.
(In reply to comment #5) > Well, there are a couple of things going on here. > > 1. There *is* a bug with writing DVD's right now -- if you don't use --format > it ends up copying the iso into / of the host system. I'll fix this today. But > the first time you setup your USB stick to use F17 DVD's you will need to use > --format, there is no way to avoid that. If --format isn't used and there is no > 2nd partition setup it should print an error and exit. It doesn't print an error message currently. The addition would be nice. > > 2. With a livecd.iso install your comments are correct. Only 1 partition is > needed. > > 3. Because of changes in Anaconda for F17 it is no longer able to use the > partition it booted from as a source for the .iso, so this needs to be written > to a second partition. The wiki needs to be updated to make this situation > clear. Instead of formatting the entire USB, isn't it possible to instead split the partition the user specifies into two, leaving the other partitions untouched? Maybe add an option --using-dvd-iso that takes care of this? I'm just fishing for solutions here. Pardon me if the idea isn't at all implementable.. I will update the relevant documents as required. Ankur
Hello, Documents updated. I've sent an email to the testing mailing list too. I see you've added "Fixed in version" information. What fix is this specifically please? Thanks, Ankur
Complete required command: livecd-iso-to-disk --format --msdos --reset-mbr <iso path> </dev/sd*> In this case, shouldn't --msdos be compulsory (along with --format), otherwise it formats it as ext4, which isn't detected by most systems on boot. Ankur
Ugh, that didn't work either: Disk /dev/sdb: 4048 MB, 4048551936 bytes 125 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1020 cylinders, total 7907328 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00045c85 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 2048 2557951 1277952 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sdb2 2557952 7904296 2673172+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) [root@ankur ~]# and my EEEpc won't detect it. Any pointers as to what's going wrong? Ankur
Worked on my Dell Latitude. I'm going to try and see why this is happening.
Entered in wrong bug yesterday:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811412#c22 -revised for subsequent test with 4 GB USB Used Disk utility on an 4 GB USB format USB fat format one partition: /dev/sdb1 750 mb fat;label=LIVE boot flag left balance of USB unformatted unmount /dev/sdb1 ./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --reset-mbr Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso /dev/sdb1 Boot USB now I have 2 UUID entries repo=hd:UUID then root=live:UUID It shows the installation repo on list format with fat /dev/sdb1 and 2-)leaving 3GB of 4GB USB unformatted. -checking dependencies from install repo! look OK -Installing from DVD repo....no network connection used. Installs correctly to HD There are 2 partitions: LIVE and LIVE-REPO(with Fedora 17 Beta-x86-64-DVD.iso) anaconda must have created the /dev/sdb2 partition and installed the DVD.iso in the Unformatted 4 GB part of the USB grub.conf debug --graphics default=0 splashimage=@SPLASHPATH@ timeout 5 hiddenmenu title Fedora 17-Beta findiso kernel @KERNELPATH@ @ROOT@ rd.luks=0 rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 initrd @INITRDPATH@ syslinux.cfg ... label linux menu label ^Install or upgrade Fedora menu default kernel vmlinuz append initrd=initrd.img repo=hd:UUID=3147-B22E:/ root=live:UUID=310D-94BB quiet rd.luks=0 rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 .......
--msdos isn't required, the filesystem type shouldn't matter. If it isn't booting then it is a problem with the bootloader. Any new testing of this should use the latest version of livecd-iso-to-disk from updates-testing.
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=hosted/livecd;a=blob;f=tools/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh;hb=HEAD raw download is what I have been using for my tests per fedora link
Discussed at 2012-04-20 blocker review meeting - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-04-20/fedora-bugzappers.2012-04-20-17.01.log.txt . We agreed that this bug is accepted as a blocker, under criterion "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media", insofar as the requirement to use --format must be at the least clearly documented (ideally strongly advised/enforced by the tool itself). Doing so would be sufficient to clear the blocker status of this bug. Note this is a 'special blocker' - as it affects livecd-tools, it does not block the creation of composes, only the final release itself.
livecd-tools-17.9-1.fc17 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-17.9-1.fc17
livecd-tools-16.13-1.fc16 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 16. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-16.13-1.fc16
Package livecd-tools-17.9-1.fc17: * should fix your issue, * was pushed to the Fedora 17 testing repository, * should be available at your local mirror within two days. Update it with: # su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing livecd-tools-17.9-1.fc17' as soon as you are able to. Please go to the following url: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-6645/livecd-tools-17.9-1.fc17 then log in and leave karma (feedback).
livecd-tools-17.10-1.fc17 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-17.10-1.fc17
tested with https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-17.10-1.fc17 on Virtualbox DVD TC1 x86_64 gnome install. installed the 2 rpms formatted 8 GB usb fat no (sdb1) tools_livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr Fedora-17-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso /dev/sdb .....scroll back failed------copied 3368 rpms to USB-.... Packages/zvbi-fonts-0.2.33-12.fc17.noarch.rpm 117829 100% 159.15kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3356, to-check=9/3368) repodata/ repodata/0e9ffb58a7c184b0cf39573a2c85ffe606d9359155d4764ae65aa2b6b0d7fd69-other.xml.gz 1247952 100% 1.28MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3357, to-check=8/3368) repodata/3f98616c25bd703f61db805ff651779641ad8eb614f14925680473e7b0d01a19-Fedora-17-TC1-comps.xml 1941719 100% 1.55MB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#3358, to-check=7/3368) repodata/6ad1c3c9702b69dad0e4a4df74003903f69b44b269c05855225e36ed8151c381-primary.sqlite.bz2 2478251 100% 4.18MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3359, to-check=6/3368) repodata/738250ba159d35a2e7a9e862f93cad47dca744f6e052eb058a6146f3acf51ef6-Fedora-17-TC1-comps.xml.gz 440672 100% 668.24kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3360, to-check=5/3368) repodata/7539f31b89d3b93fe698306f7430058deb145c25e7789f59e22acf6a0b7c5bee-other.sqlite.bz2 1198513 100% 1.36MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3361, to-check=4/3368) repodata/ac6ad4ea0e3fb888e25eaedb42d3d253556c3e86b61a200cde5b6ee731bba04a-primary.xml.gz 1366054 100% 764.93kB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#3362, to-check=3/3368) repodata/af628b66c37966d48ac5c90cf5e4af7dc5fd17832bea6e30c94614356edcab76-filelists.xml.gz 2897005 100% 6.43MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3363, to-check=2/3368) repodata/d6aea7ef51e67dcc383c1ea5ec0996c51e625569852c6e68b061776f9941a47c-filelists.sqlite.bz2 3117988 100% 3.74MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3364, to-check=1/3368) repodata/repomd.xml 3756 100% 4.61kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3365, to-check=0/3368) sent 3658156062 bytes received 63955 bytes 3022073.54 bytes/sec total size is 3657431730 speedup is 1.00 Waiting for device to finish writing Updating boot config file Installing boot loader /media/tgttmp.qPW8PD/syslinux is device /dev/sdb1 Target device is now set up with a Live image! [root@localhost sugar]# copied 3368 rpms to USB On boot starts anaconda but does not see installation repo. insists on network setup before proceeding. No EFI Boot om MAC
LIVE/Packages contains the 3368 rpms LIVE/repodata has no link to Packages This is a failure as no "sneaker-net" is possible.
livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi Fedora-17-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso /dev/sdb1 ---------Boots om MacBook Proi7 and Acer aspire one n450------------------ Packages/zvbi-fonts-0.2.33-12.fc17.noarch.rpm 117829 100% 202.58kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3356, to-check=9/3368) repodata/ repodata/0e9ffb58a7c184b0cf39573a2c85ffe606d9359155d4764ae65aa2b6b0d7fd69-other.xml.gz 1247952 100% 1.35MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3357, to-check=8/3368) repodata/3f98616c25bd703f61db805ff651779641ad8eb614f14925680473e7b0d01a19-Fedora-17-TC1-comps.xml 1941719 100% 1.22MB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#3358, to-check=7/3368) repodata/6ad1c3c9702b69dad0e4a4df74003903f69b44b269c05855225e36ed8151c381-primary.sqlite.bz2 2478251 100% 1.83MB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#3359, to-check=6/3368) repodata/738250ba159d35a2e7a9e862f93cad47dca744f6e052eb058a6146f3acf51ef6-Fedora-17-TC1-comps.xml.gz 440672 100% 1.08MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3360, to-check=5/3368) repodata/7539f31b89d3b93fe698306f7430058deb145c25e7789f59e22acf6a0b7c5bee-other.sqlite.bz2 1198513 100% 1.50MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3361, to-check=4/3368) repodata/ac6ad4ea0e3fb888e25eaedb42d3d253556c3e86b61a200cde5b6ee731bba04a-primary.xml.gz 1366054 100% 1.08MB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#3362, to-check=3/3368) repodata/af628b66c37966d48ac5c90cf5e4af7dc5fd17832bea6e30c94614356edcab76-filelists.xml.gz 2897005 100% 2.66MB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#3363, to-check=2/3368) repodata/d6aea7ef51e67dcc383c1ea5ec0996c51e625569852c6e68b061776f9941a47c-filelists.sqlite.bz2 3117988 100% 3.14MB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3364, to-check=1/3368) repodata/repomd.xml 3756 100% 3.86kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#3365, to-check=0/3368) sent 3658156062 bytes received 63955 bytes 3407750.37 bytes/sec total size is 3657431730 speedup is 1.00 Waiting for device to finish writing Updating boot config file Installing boot loader Target device is now set up with a Live image! [root@localhost sugar]# Boots om MacBook Proi7 and Acer aspire one n450 still requires networking to install No install repo available
In f17 gnome Version 3.4.1 fully updated: (VirtualBox 4.1.14) satellit_ 4/27/2012 This works Boots EFI (Mac ) and Legacy PC Has DVD installation repo! ................................................ Removing: livecd-tools x86_64 1:17.10-1.fc17 @/livecd-tools-17.10-1.fc17.x86_64 140 k Removing: python-imgcreate x86_64 1:17.10-1.fc17 @/python-imgcreate-17.10-1.fc17.x86_64 274 k Installing: python-imgcreate x86_64 1:17.9-1.fc17 updates-testing 94 k Installing: livecd-tools x86_64 1:17.9-1.fc17 updates-testing 73 k Complete! .........8 GB USB GPT with /dev/sdb 500MB formatted in f17 Disk-Utility......... [root@localhost sugar]# livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi Fedora-17-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso /dev/sdb1 Verifying image... /home/sugar/Fedora-17-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso: 58d524c488dcce9d577bae7cde57bb79 Fragment sums: fe5138ee11e79eaed3dc23ce3e7c9eb7633eeba3b7bcf1f7745f11648f63 Fragment count: 20 Press [Esc] to abort check. Checking: 032.3% The media check is complete, the result is: UNKNOWN. The media check was aborted. Are you SURE you want to continue? Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort /Packages found, will copy source .iso to target WARNING: THIS WILL DESTROY ANY DATA ON /dev/sdb!!! Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort 8 bytes were erased at offset 0x00000200 (gpt): 45 46 49 20 50 41 52 54 8 bytes were erased at offset 0xeefffe00 (gpt): 45 46 49 20 50 41 52 54 Your device isn't big enough to hold /home/sugar/Fedora-17-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso It is 94 MB too small [root@localhost sugar]# livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi Fedora-17-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso /dev/sdb1 Verifying image... /home/sugar/Fedora-17-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso: 58d524c488dcce9d577bae7cde57bb79 Fragment sums: fe5138ee11e79eaed3dc23ce3e7c9eb7633eeba3b7bcf1f7745f11648f63 Fragment count: 20 Press [Esc] to abort check. Checking: 025.1% The media check is complete, the result is: UNKNOWN. The media check was aborted. Are you SURE you want to continue? Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort /Packages found, will copy source .iso to target WARNING: THIS WILL DESTROY ANY DATA ON /dev/sdb!!! Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort 8 bytes were erased at offset 0x00000200 (gpt): 45 46 49 20 50 41 52 54 8 bytes were erased at offset 0x1ddbf7e00 (gpt): 45 46 49 20 50 41 52 54 Waiting for devices to settle... mkdosfs 3.0.12 (29 Oct 2011) mkdosfs 3.0.12 (29 Oct 2011) Copying live image to target device. squashfs.img 137752576 100% 8.83MB/s 0:00:14 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 137769465 bytes received 31 bytes 8888354.58 bytes/sec total size is 137752576 speedup is 1.00 Copying /home/sugar/Fedora-17-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso Fedora-17-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso 3832545280 100% 2.67MB/s 0:22:47 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 3833013210 bytes received 31 bytes 2802934.73 bytes/sec total size is 3832545280 speedup is 1.00 Updating boot config file Installing boot loader Target device is now set up with a Live image! [root@localhost sugar]# Boots Both in EFI (Mac) and on a PC
Make sure the iso you are using has anaconda-17.23-1 or later.
using livecd-tools x86_64 1:17.10-1.fc17 : with GPT and /dev/sdb1 700MB label=LIVE /dev/sdb2 label=LIVE-REPO Installs all 3k+ rpms in /dev/sdb1 and then cannot access the install repo for install. (Only sees the repos on line) Boots on Mac EFI and legacy on PC. Comment: may as well have a netinstall USB. ; /
17.10 does not create 2 partitions. Double check the version you think you are using and make sure you use --format --reset-mbr to wipe the entire USB.
brian: isn't it desirable for it to also work _without_ using --format? -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
yes, but if you previously used versions that made the 2 partitions you need to reformat it to reclaim the space used in the 2nd partition for the .iso
Hey folks, With the amount of changes being made to livecd-tools, it's really difficult to keep the docs pages up to date. For instance, I had updated the wiki pages for the new behaviour before the test day. Now, it appears that the behaviour has changed again. I haven't been able to follow all the new changes, and therefore cannot update the docs. Brian, would it be possible for you folks (the livecd-tools maintainers) to take ownership of the wiki pages and maintain them please? It's important that they are in line with the livecd-tools package before release. Otherwise, there'll be utter confusion about the creation and use of USBs to install fedora. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB Thanks, Ankur
Ankur: Brian: I've just done an extensive update of that page: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB&action=historysubmit&diff=286477&oldid=285102 please check the current version over for any obvious mistakes, I've been staring at it long enough I can't see it any more. I _think_ it should reflect the current state of the art (i.e. I don't talk at all about the two partition thing or having to do --format for F17 images, as that is apparently not true any more). I don't think it's worth explaining the case where you go from a two-partition image to a one-partition image as we only had the two-partition thing quite briefly, in an unreleased Fedora version. -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
It may be a question whether we just ditch the page entirely and refer to the install guide instead - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/Making_USB_Media.html - as we're essentially keeping two copies of the same instructions ATM.
I'd certainly prefer one document to maintain. I'll take a look at both of them today.
livecd-tools-16.15-1.fc16 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 16. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-16.15-1.fc16
livecd-tools-17.11-1.fc17 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-17.11-1.fc17
(In reply to comment #33) > livecd-tools-17.11-1.fc17 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17. > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-17.11-1.fc17 Installed: lorax-17.17-1.fc17.x86_64.rpm python-imgcreate-17.11-1.fc17.x86_64.rpm livecd-tools-17.11-1.fc17.x86_64.rpm Tested livecd-tools-17.11-1.fc17 in a f17TC2 Desktop x86_64 VirtualBox install: 1-)Fedora-17-TC2-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso 4 GB USB formatted fat with /dev/sd1 fat LIVE boot bios boot works EFI boot works 2-)Fedora-17-TC2-x86_64-DVD.iso 8 GB USB formatted fat with /dev/sd1 fat LIVE boot Tested with 4 GB USB but ran out of space when extracting .rpms bios boot works - sees the DVD install repo. Installs to HD EFI-does not work- -there is a problem on shutdown-it does not shutdown. with root terminal: "shutdown -h now" takes 2 minutes from command line. 3) re-ran with --efi added and it boots both EFI and bios boot Did not do a Hd install on MacBookPro i7 after it booted the USB
(In reply to comment #30) > It may be a question whether we just ditch the page entirely and refer to the > install guide instead - > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/Making_USB_Media.html > - as we're essentially keeping two copies of the same instructions ATM. I think this is a great idea. However, then we'll need to put a mechanism in place to ensure that the docs are up to date at all times. For instance, the F16 docs aren't in line with the behaviour for the current version of livecd-tools. The F16 docs aren't modified after F16 releases, are they? I think the wiki page was set up because it's easily modifiable to reflect changes. I haven't seen the docs page (I've always referred to the wiki page), but I'm pretty sure the wiki page is more exhaustive? Another solution (which I think is better) is to make the wiki page the main document, and just let the docs have a link to it (and no info). Thanks, Ankur
ankur: right, the guide for one release is set in stone once the release is made. the 17 guide should be updated for 17 behaviour, of course, but I haven't checked. actually, afaics, the only practical difference between 16 and 17 now is that dd'ed images should be EFI bootable, and dd'ed USB images should be able to find the packages automatically (so no need for the manual workaround). -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
In case anyone missed it in the excessive verbiage in comment #34, satellit says that a DVD image written with livecd-iso-to-disk 17.11, presumably with --efi, does not boot via EFI. -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
sorry, skip the above. i was misreading the comment. which is easy to do :( afaict, satellit did not find any actual bugs in 17.11. not working with EFI unless you pass --efi is expected, and the shutdown bug is nothing to do with livecd-iso-to-disk.
So I think what we need to do for clarity here is to test writing F17 Final TC2 (or TC3, when it lands), using the latest livecd-tools from 17 updates-testing, to an existing FAT-formatted stick *without* --format. Because that's the common use case that worked before (F16) and didn't work for a time with F17, because of the two-partition thing. I don't think we're all that interested in the case where you have a two-partition stick from an earlier F17 livecd-tools, and you have to use --format to get it back to 'normal'. That's just a transient scenario, I'd say. The key case here is writing the latest-shiny F17 to a 'normal' USB stick, i.e. a FAT-formatted one with some files on it, without reformatting. -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
so I'm testing this like so: Take a USB stick, remove all partitions, 'mklabel msdos' with parted, create a single new partition of type Win95 FAT32, mark it bootable, format it with mkfs.vfat, and copy a file to it (just to test that the file is still around later). Then try and livecd-iso-to-disk it. So far, 'livecd-iso-to-disk Fedora-17.TC3-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso /dev/sdX1' fails to boot, but 'livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr Fedora-17.TC3-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso /dev/sdX1' works, which is probably as you'd expect. I am now going to test with the DVD ISO. -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
--reset-mbr is needed at least once to install the syslinux bootloader.
Yes, I know. I was just testing 'dumbly' according to the docs. Same test with the TC3 DVD image gives the same results, so I think we could say this is fixed in 17.11. Setting VERIFIED. -- Fedora Bugzappers volunteer triage team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
livecd-tools-17.11-1.fc17 has been pushed to the Fedora 17 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Final_TC5_Install#USB_Stick https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820750#c11