Bug 115679
Created attachment 97673 [details]
working XF86Config
Can you give the output of `/usr/sbin/kudzu -p -c MONITOR` as well? Also, does booting with linux resolution=800x512 work? There is no output. I ran the command from inside Xwindows and nothing happened. I rebooted with the following in the grub.conf kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.1-1.65 ro root=LABEL=/ acpi=force resolution=800x512 The bootup still did show up at 800x512. The following showed up during boot. Using tsc for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 I tried the kudzu command after the boot and still no output. Jason: don't add the "resolution=800x512" line to your grub.conf. Boot off the Fedora CD #1 and type 'linux resolution=800x512' at the isolinux boot screen. Does that work? I tried booting from the FC2 test 1 CD and put in linux resolution=800x512 and pressed enter. The system started a text based install. I tried the FC2T2 disks. When I boot off the CD, let it load, the installer starts a X windows install using the wrong resoultion. When I boot off of the CD and type in linux resolution=800x512 X windows bombs out and a text install starts. Will this request make it in FC2? Will you please get this fixed for FC3? The request to add support for this monitor has been around since bug 58003 (Jan 2002). I have tried FC3T1 and the resolution is still wrong. Will this be fixed for FC3T2? Thanks, Jason I just tried FC3T2 and the resolution is still wrong. Please fix this. I am attaching a working xorg.conf. Created attachment 104270 [details]
working xorg.conf
working xorg.conf
What is the output of: kudzu -p -b ddc - class: VIDEO bus: DDC detached: 0 driver: unknown desc: "Number Nine Visual Technology Corporation REVOLUTION(tm) IV" mem: 32768 The above is the requested output. I am sorry it took so long. Your monitor does not support ddc probing - do you have a windows INF file off a driver disk for that monitor - if so please attach and we can get added to the monitor DB - you'll have to manually select the monitor but once we have the details it should just be doing that in firstboot. If not let me know and I'll hunt one down. Created attachment 104783 [details]
driver
driver
Will this allow anaconda to use the correct resolution during install? Right now anaconda tries to use 1024x768 and the monitor works, but not well. When using 1024x768, the monitor displays two screens, one is about one inch from the upper left hand corner. Its size is about 4 inches by 5 inches. The second screen starts two inchs below the first and only about the top third is visable. It would be great if anaconda could use the proper settings during the install. Thank you for your help. Comment #18 - no if we can't probe the monitor we can't work out resolutions. You can pass resolution=XxY to specifiy an alternate resolution. Reassigning to hwdata for INF processing. The monitor is already in MonitorsDB; has been since January of 2004. I just booted from the FC3T3 CD with linux resolution=800x512 and I ended up with a text install. X failed to start, then X tried the vesa driver and failed, and then the text install began. Here is the x.log X Window System Version 6.8.1 Release Date: 17 September 2004 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.1 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-14.ELsmp i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.8-1.541 #1 Wed Sep 1 18:00:30 EDT 2004 i686 Build Date: 28 September 2004 Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.8-1.541 (bhcompile.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.1 20040831 (Red Hat 3.4.1-10)) #1 Wed Sep 1 18:00:30 EDT 2004 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (++) Log file: "/tmp/ramfs/X.log", Time: Tue Oct 12 22:05:47 2004 (++) Using config file: "/tmp/XConfig.test" (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "record" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. Please also check the log file at "/tmp/ramfs/X.log" for additional information. . Bouncing back to anaconda... there's nothing else that can be done in the hwdata monitor database. I have just installed FC3 on my system. I passed linux nofb resolution=800x512 to the installer. X refused to start and I ended up with a text install. After the install rhgb tries to start but keeps crashing. I have to boot into single user mode and copy my corrected version of xorg.conf to /etc/X11. Anaconda does not select the resolution. Please update anaconda so it uses the correct settings when I pass resolution=800x512 to the installer. Thanks, Our default modelines (and x.orgs) doesn't have modes for 800x512 does booting with resolution=1600x1024 work? Good question. I have not tried that resolution. I will try it tonight. If I boot with linux resolution=1600x1024 then when X tries to start my monitor loses signal and the light on the monitor flashes yellow. If I boot with linux nofb resolution=1600x1024 then when X startx I get a screen, but the window is not even close to fitting into the monitor. X is still using the wrong resolution or modelines. I just tried FC4T1. If I boot linux nofb, I get a X session this is about 4 inches by 6 inches. If I boot linux nogb resolution=800x512 I get can't get address for localhost:6001: Name or service not known (mini_wm:599):GTK_WARNING **: cannot open display: :1 If I boot linux nofb resolution=1600x1024 then I a large X screen, but the screen is shifted a couple inches to the right. In short still broke, please fix. I installed FC4 on my system. If I boot linux nofb, the system falls back to a text install. If I boot linux nofb resolution=800x512, the installer dies. It stops responding, I have to hit the reset button. If I boot linux nofb resolution=1600x1024 I get a screen of black and white bars. I'm having hte same issues. I'm using a Compaq Proliant 850r, which has a Cirrus Logic chipset for video. It seems to be probing the video, but it can't probe the monitor. The monitor is an OptiQuest Q71 17" monitor. What baffles me is that the following commands don't do ANYTHING different: linux ide=nodma resolution=800x600 linux ide=nodma resolution=640x480 linux ide=nodma nofb resolution=800x600 (I was using ide=nodma becuase this setup keeps telling me my CD's are bad). What happens is that on all three of these commands, when anaconda loads, it's the same resolution everytime...which pushes the bottom and right sides out of my monitor. I'm using FC4 which was downloaded just a couple of nights ago. OK, I swapped out my OptiQuest for an NEC MultiSync LCDM1700+ 17" Flat Panel. Same deal. I noticed that when Anaconda probed my video card it says: Cirrus Logic GD543x. And it still can't probe my monitor. It says Unknown Monitor. Can I assume at this point that maybe it's the video card that's not allowing the monitor to be probed? I'm going to try some of the resolution=XXXxYYY commands again. However, I'm am doubting any success there. Whatever resolution Anaconda is picking can't fit on a 17" monitor. OK, so now that I have my flat panel on, I can get a little more info here. So I tried linux resolution=640x480. When I get to Anaconda, I see the Welcome to Fedora Core screen in its same old off the right/bottom of the screen position. When I ask the monitor to tell me it's setting, I see that it is 640x480@60Hz. OK, now I'm going to try higher resolutions this time and see what happens. linux resolution=1024x768 ide=nodma Well. That's interesting. My monitor is telling me that it is at 640x480@60Hz. So, what I'm guessing here is that if the system can't probe the monitor, it's dropping down to a default of 640x480....even though the screens don't work seem to work at that resolution. Which brings up my next question. If there is a resolution keyword, what use is it if the system uses its own default? Sorry to post again, but I thought I'd follow with a little additonal info. I was thinking that maybe the video card couldn't handle the resolution. I had Win2K on this server earlier, and I'm pretty sure I had it in 800x600 mode. I looked at one of my other servers (I don't have any other PL850's around). I've got a pair of Proliant 2500R's runinning around here with Win2K on them. The video card driver says Cirrus Logic 5430/5440. The Win2K drivers appear to allow them to operate up to 1280x1024 (Although it looks like crap since its only 16 color) and that's on a Dell 15" monitor. It could defintely handle 256 colors at 1024x768 (and look OK) on the same 15" monitor. Sooo, I'm thinking that the video card should be able to handle 800x600 at a minimum, but the resolution keyword isn't doing anything for some reason. Christopher - please note this bug is against specific hardware - for issues with other hardware please file a seperate bug. FC5T1 installer recognizes the hardware I have but still does not use it correctly. Xwindows still uses the wrong resolution. Also during firstboot when I am asked to choose the correct the resolution, the proper resolutions are not available (I know I will file another bugzilla about this) I mention it in case the two are related. Jason what was the bug number for the resolution issue. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174052 is to have firstboot show me the correct resolution so I can select it so firstboot will create a working xorg.conf so Xwindows will work properly. I downloaded yesterdays boot.iso and tried to do a ftp install of rawhide. Anaconda still does not use the proper resolution for my monitor. anaconda in FC5T2 still will not use the proper resolution during the install. todays boot.iso still does not use the proper resolution for my monitor. *** Bug 174052 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** I have some patches to pyxf86config, rhpxl, and the extramodes file that should get support for this into shape. Will be rebuilding and testing those over the next couple days. Waiting on bug 181292 and bug 182430 before you can test this. All the pieces should be in place now. Please test with FC5 and let me know if this is working better for you. I tried todays rawhide boot.iso and it crashed so I opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=184160 Since the other bugs were closed today I will try this again tomorrow. Some good news and bad news. The good news is that I nolonger get the trackback that I was getting yesterday. The bad news is that when X started from todays boot.iso, I got a white screen. What do you need from me to id the problem? Thanks, Jason I found the problem. The file generated by pyxf86config is wrong. pyxf86config says the HorizSync is 31.5 - 48.5, it should be HorizSync 31.5 - 110. Comment 45 fixes 1600x1024 resolution. There is a HUGE problem with 800x512. When I startx at 800x512, the resulting X is 4 times larger than the monitor, hence the huge reference :) I don't know how to fix that problem. Will this be fixed for FC5? Please, pretty please, pretty please with a cherry on top... Chris can you please reopen 182430 to have this problem fixed? Hello again. I tried the rawhide boot.iso today to if see the boot resolution problem which has been open since 2004 (2002 if you count earlier bugs) has been fixed. It has not. Will you please fix it for FC6? Here are the logs from todays attempt. Created attachment 132151 [details]
X.log from todays rawhide install attempt
Created attachment 132152 [details]
XConfig.test from todays rawhide install
rhpxl should now just be writing out a skeleton X config file, since X can figure out most of the configuration stuff on its own anymore. Please try FC6 test 2 and see if that makes any difference for you. Otherwise, it is most likely going to be an X bug. Since FC6 test2 is not going to be available for at a least a week, did you want me to try todays daily boot.iso image? I tried today's rawhide boot.iso and things are back to where they were in 2000. The screen is nolonger white, but the installer uses the wrong resolution so the monitor is not usable. The xorg-x11-server-Red-Hat-extramodes.patch contained in the xorg-x11-server package, still contains the special mode required for the SGI 1600sw monitor. If you are experiencing a problem with current rawhide, please file a brand new bug report with the details in it, against the component that you think is the most relevant for the problem. If you think it is a configuration issue, then "system-config-display" is probably the right choice. If you're unsure, then do a text mode install, and try to get X to work afterward. If you can get it to work, then it is probably just a configuration issue. Keep in mind that this type of hardware is very non-standard and rare nowadays, and may not work at all well with newer X releases, or newer operating system releases. It can be a manpower resource strain to have to engineer and maintain custom workarounds for rare legacy hardware on an ongoing basis, in particular if it breaks every release as things change. We do try to provide workarounds for issues of this nature when possible, however they're fairly low priority overall, and it can be hard to justify spending the manpower resources on an issue that affects only a small number of people if there are hundreds of more critical issues affecting thousands of people. Just a thought. I don't know how anaconda works. I have no idea where the problem is located. My job as a bug reporter is to report problems and answer questions you have so the problem can be fixed. If you ask a question I will get the answer. The problem is even though the xorg-x11-server-Red-Hat-extramodes.patch contains the right settings is not working. Since you or someone you know has knowledge of how anaconda works and how the video setting gets chosen you should be able to figure out where the problem is occurring. I don't have that knowledge. Can you tell me where I can view the xorg-x11-server-Red-Hat-extramodes.patch so I can see if the mode line is correct. As I stated in Comment 45 the solution to this problem is easy. The problem is DDC on your monitor is busted, so it's not probing the sync ranges correctly. The INF file for the monitor doesn't actually have sync range info, just some static sync pairs. I stuck a hack in the i128 driver to attempt to force the sync ranges to something suitable for the 1600SW when we detect one but don't have working DDC; please test xorg-x11-drv-i128-1.2.0-3 or later. I download the file you requested and its dependencies. Things are getting better. I can now comment out the modlines in my xorg.conf and its works fine. However if I understand X it is supposed to be able to run without a xorg.conf so I decided to try it. It works after a fashion. The screen comes up but is mostly garbage. I traced the problem to X not using the correct resolution. What should have is X should probe for the a video card and monitor and if the video card is a Number Nine Revolution IV video card and a SGI 1600SW monitor then the resolution should be 800x512 or 1600x1024 and not to bother with any others. I will download fridays rawhide boot.iso and see if it works there. Thanks for your help, Created attachment 133606 [details]
x log from startx without a xorg.conf
todays boot.iso gives a backtrace after I enter download location for a ftp install. I will try it again when this problem is fixed. see bug 201367 for details of the backtrace if interested. bug 201367 is fixed but now I have https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=201737 I will keep this bug updated. The august 13 boot.iso works again. The bad news is anaconda is still using the wrong resolution. Attached is the Xconfig.test and X.log from the trial. Created attachment 134106 [details]
august 13 x.log
Created attachment 134107 [details]
august 13 xconfig.test
What happens if you pass resolution=<valid res> to anaconda? linux resolution=800x512 yeilds a screen that overfills the monitor. The background menus appear to have a resolution of 800x600 so that the bottom of all the screen are cut off (you can't click on or see the next button). linux resolution=1600x1024 yeilds a screen that is 1600x1024 (as the mouse travels) but the background menus are in the upper left hand corner approx 4x3 inchs in size. Pop up message boxes appear in the middle of the screen like they are suppose to. Thanks, anaconda's UI is only designed for 800x600 and 640x480 (if it has to). It sounds to me like running anaconda at 1600x1024 for you is showing you the entire UI, but it just doesn't fill the entire screen. That's about what happens on more interesting platforms a swell. As long as X after reboot works correctly for you with the config file as written, I'd think this bug could be closed out. So far during the last month of testing I have not been able to install rawhide. It is not because of rawhide breakage, just problems with anaconda, the kerenl, etc. I will try installing rawhide later today or tomorrow and see if things have gotten any better since last week. I was able to install rawhide today (august 26) and quite frankly rawhide is garbage, nothing works. I have updated the appropriate bugs with info. On this issue X is now really screwed up. It is so screwed up that my original xorg.conf no longer works. I tried startx with the fedora generated xorg.conf and my xorg.conf and neither work. I am attaching logs. Created attachment 134989 [details]
x log for fedora generated xorg.conf (aug 26)
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fedora generated xorg.conf (aug 26)
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x log for my xorg.conf (aug 26)
Created attachment 134992 [details]
my xorg.conf that used to work (aug 26)
That's bizarre, you should at least be getting a message saying why the 1600x1024 mode was rejected. I'm building a new version of the i128 driver that might fix this. Please try 1.2.0-4, which should be in tomorrow's rawhide, or if you're impatient I've uploaded it to: http://people.freedesktop.org/~ajax/fedora/i128/ Yes I am the impatient type. I installed the two packages (driver and debuginfo) and the fedora generated xorg.conf. Good news I now get a working X setup. The bad news is looks like the screen is shifted a couple of pixels to the right and 1 pixel down. This makes moving up and down a webpage using the scrollbar difficult. Now to get my 5 button intelimouse to work. Finally progress after all these years. Thank you. When I shutdown X I get a screen of garbage. If I do a setfont then it clears up. A couple of problems: 1) X nolonger reads the xorg.conf. The default resolution is 1600x1024 but I prefer 800x512. I added the proper settings to xorg.conf and they are ignored. This also affects my mouse. I have a 5 button intellimouse and the back and forward buttons no longer work. Again I think this is because X does not read the xorg.conf file 2) When I logout of X the screen is scambled with garbage characters. I don't think the i128 driver is reseting the vga mode correctly (my knowledge of this area is quite limited so take with a grain of salt). Since there is no fb for this card I use the vga console at 80x25 Thanks, 3) the screen at 1600x1024 is 1 pixel down and 2 pixels to the right to far. no way to test 800x512 since there is no way to switch to it. An old copy of my xorg.conf in /root was being used and caused my x not reading xorg.conf problem. The only two problems left are: 1) the new driver causes the screen to be 1 pixel down and 2 pixels right causing the right side of the desktop to be cut off. 2) when I exit X the monitor gets all screwed up with garbage characters, I don't think the i128 driver is reseting the vga mode correctly (my knowledge of this area is quite limited so take with a grain of salt). Since there is no fb for this card I use the vga console at 80x25. a setfont fixes the problem. Thanks, 1600SW setup fixed. |
From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 Description of problem: Fedora Core 2 test 1 now recognizes my SGI 1600SW flat panel. The problem is anaconda is using the wrong resolution for the install and the XF86Config that is generated is also wrong. The install trys to set the monitor to 1024x768. This is not one of the two resolutions the monitor works at. 800x512 and 1600x1024 are the two resolutions that the monitor works best at. I think the installer needs to run at 800x512 for the install. I will attach a copy of my XF86Config that works. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): what comes with the FC2 test1 iso How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. try to install FC2 test 1 2. on a system that has 3. SGI 1600sw monitor Actual Results: the installer is using the wrong resolution so what is displayed on the screen is a little 6x8 (approx.) version of the screen. Expected Results: The whole flat panel should be used Additional info: