From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040809 Description of problem: I've upgraded to 08/25's rawhide, and gamin doesn't work: - Nothing appears on the desktop after doing "extract here" on an archive - The menu isn't refreshed after an RPM install - Deleting .recently_used doesn't empty the "recent documents" menu - After touch ~/Desktop/test and mkdir ~/Desktop/test2, nothing appears on the desktop After re-installing fam, all of that works well. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): gamin-0.0.6-1 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Install latest gamin 2.Try any of the tests upper 3. Actual Results: They all fail Expected Results: They should succeed Additional info: replacing gamin by fam makes all the tests succeed
You must restart the session, possibly restart the system. the server changed location in the 0.0.5 -> 0.0.6 transition and any application using the old shared lib won't work anymore. Did you reboot. Can you first upgrade to 0.0.7 the latest version ? Daniel
Where can I find 0.0.7 ? It doesn't seem to be available through yum or up2date. Could you give me a link to it please ?
Easy: paphio:~ -> rpm -qi gamin | grep URL URL : http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/ Daniel
OK, first thanks for the "rpm -qi" tip. Secondly, I've just tested gamin-0.0.7 and it works well after a reboot. Thanks for your help !
Okay, good to know, thanks ! Daniel
Hmmm... After using 0.0.7-1 for a while, I noticed that, from time to time, I get the following message in one of my terminals: end from FAM server connection Then, nothing seems to refresh anymore, but gam_server is still running (from ps). Should I file a different bug for that ?
yes and indicate how to reproduce this, conditions which may have led to the problem, etc ... Daniel
Well, I'm sorry to say so, but I can't find any logic in gamin's behaviour... With gamin-0.0.8-1, I don't seem to see it crash anymore, but gamin hardly ever refreshes my desktop folder. More over, changes in /etc/fstab don't seem to be monitored, as new devices don't appear in "computer" (although they are in /etc/fstab). I'm quite lost as for why this doesn't seem to work, sorry...
I was working in a terminal, and I saw the following messages appear without any obvious reason: end from FAM server connection added /media/* to excludes added /mnt/* to excludes Adding /etc/xdg/mime/defaults.list to polling Adding /etc/xdg/mime/mimeinfo.cache to polling Adding /home/julien/.local/share/applications/defaults.list to polling Adding /usr/local/share/applications/defaults.list to polling Adding /usr/local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache to polling Adding /etc/xdg/mime/defaults.list to polling Adding /etc/xdg/mime/mimeinfo.cache to polling Adding /home/julien/.local/share/applications/defaults.list to polling Adding /usr/local/share/applications/defaults.list to polling Adding /usr/local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache to polling Adding /etc/xdg/mime/defaults.list to polling Adding /etc/xdg/mime/mimeinfo.cache to polling Adding /home/julien/.local/share/applications/defaults.list to polling Adding /usr/local/share/applications/defaults.list to polling Adding /usr/local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache to polling Adding /home/julien/Templates to polling end from FAM server connection added /media/* to excludes added /mnt/* to excludes At this point, gamin starting to work again, after it had stopped working for a few minutes. Does it help you ? PS: it's gamin-0.9
I still don't know why it stop working for you. It should not show those informations, they are strictly when running in debug mode. There is something wrong but what ? end from FAM server connection means the client or the server dropped the connection, no idea why. So far your bug is the only one left open for gamin or fam in bugzilla (redhat and gnome.org) ! Daniel
I'm using this RPM: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/RPMS/RHEL3/i386/gamin-0.0.9-1.i386.rpm Does this version have more debug info than the one inf Fedora, or is it the same ? Anyway, is there an option to make gamin more verbose, so that I can investigate a bit more the problem ?
RHEL3 ? why on earth are you running a RHEL3 package on Fedora Core ???? For debugging just check the web page: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/debug.html Daniel
Well, I'm running the RHEL3 package, because in http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/RPMS/FC2/i386/, there is only v0.0.2, and I wanted to test the latest RPMs before they were in rawhide.
I've now installed gamin offcial packages on both my work laptop, and on another laptop. The problem occurs only on one of the two laptops (running exactly the same software, with same kernel etc...). Then, I tried installing fam on both laptops. And after a while, I noticed that fam stops working on the same laptop where gamin used to stop working, and not on the other one. Could this be related to some hardware mis-functioning ? Or a kernel issue ?
Then, I tried installing Ubuntu (Debian-based) on both laptops and get the very same results (it's fam, not gamin): it stops working on one of the two desktops, and not on the other one. The kernel is: 2.6.8.1-2
hum, bizarre. So it's not gamin related. The only commonalities are the kernel dnotify interface used by both. So it seems for some reason dnotify does not work on one of the boxes. But I really can't see why, hardware errors would not generate just dnotify problems. This is really puzzling. The good point for me is that it's not gamin related which somewhat releaves me but doesn't help your problem ... Daniel
Confirming with gamin-0.0.14-1. Reproduce: Create new launcher on desktop. It appears only after pressing Ctrl+R.
"Create new launcher on desktop." How ? Details the steps used... Daniel
Sorry Daniel. With GUI, the only way i know is: Right-click on desktop on a free space, choose "Create Launcher" in pop menu. Write command, press OK Windows closes, new launcher doesn't appear press Ctrl+R, it appears
Also when deleting a file in terminal, nautilus still shows it until manually refreshing. With fam it used to remove it from file listing after deletion from terminal.
I don't know what changed but I don't have any more problems with fam now, but I still have problems with gamin. Sorry for the confusion.
There are still problems with gamin-0.0.15-1 on rawhide. Nautilus does not display changes if you unpack something with file-roller. If you create a launcher on desktop it will displayed only after a refresh. But if you delete something on CLI it's shown immediately on nautilus.
I have similar problems, and to 0.0.17. My Iriver gets mounted automatically, but no icons are shown in nautilus or on the desktop.
Same problems here by using gamin-0.0.17-1.FC3 I think since the install of Fedora Core 3 there is no refresh. My USB disks automatically appear on the desktop.
*** Bug 140456 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 142686 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 141009 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
FC3/KDE3.3.2: * Desktop updates are not reliable, ie. they seldom happen with gamin (kdesktop). * If they happen, it's usually after the system is freshly booted or they only happen for every two updates. For instance, if it works at all, creating two new files in the desktop folder will only trigger an update after the second file is created, then showing both files. * Most of the time, it doesn't seem to work at all, though. Kernel 2.6.9-ck3,gamin-0.0.19-1FC3.
*** Bug 143178 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
re comment #28: When doing things described in bug 143178 (it did not came to my mind that this may be a gamin trouble) I had more than two newly created "launcher" files in ~/Desktop and none of them was showing up without an explicit "Refresh" button hit in Nautilus. Loging out of a seesion and loging back in also reflects changes but that is way too radical "solution" for my tastes. BTW - I was making these experiments on an x86_64 installation so the problem is not architecture specific.
I am observing this same behavior using strictly gnome desktop, so it has nothing to do with KDE specifically. I have to open the Desktop directory in Nautilus or refresh there and then items show up on the Desktop.
Is there an updated version of gamin or a workaround available?
Try the latest version 0.0.21 or CVS: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/downloads.html Daniel
I can confirm that the 0.0.20 does not fix it. I can go from source but I would rather RPM and I have never made an RPM before. Can we get a binary RPM on that 0.0.21 version on the download site?
Daniel, I just rebuilt the source rpms for 0.0.21 and installed them on my machine. I recompiled gnome-vfs and nautilus and I still have to manually force a refresh. Is there anything else I need to do?
For those interested, the rebuilt rpms for FC3 are at http://www.gnome.org/~aldug/gnome2/files/gamin/
I have installed the 0.0.21 version and get nothing. If at a console I create a file with touch in the Desktop directory, it shows up. If I do a download of a file to the Desktop directory it does not show up. If I open the Desktop in a Nautalis window it does not appear until I select view:reload fromthe menu. The icon then appears in the Nautalis window and on the Desktop.
Previously I experienced some of the problems above, specifically icons not appearing in the menu when new applications were installed. This looks like its fixed in gamin-0.0.24-1.FC3.
Yes this should really be fixed in 0.0.24, and regressions from 0.0.24 should be fixed in 0.0.25 which was pushed to rawhide and available at: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/sources/ Daniel
I have KDE 3.3.1-2.6.FC3 and i have this problem too. My Desktop isn't refreshed after create any file on my desktop. I can refresh it when i take file from desktop, and i place it on desktop with konqueror. But this problem appears middling for hour after I start my FC3. I have gamin-0.0.25-1.FC3. CoooL