Bug 144726 - boot hangs starting cups
Summary: boot hangs starting cups
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Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: kernel   
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Version: 4
Hardware: i386 Linux
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Assignee: Dave Jones
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Reported: 2005-01-10 23:02 UTC by Tony Albery
Modified: 2015-01-04 22:15 UTC (History)
17 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2006-03-30 08:58:23 UTC
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Description Tony Albery 2005-01-10 23:02:53 UTC
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Description of problem:
kernel 2.6.10-1.737_FC3 boot hangs when starting cups. no problem when
booting kernel 2.6.9-1.724_FC3

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Boot linux

Actual Results:  system freezes. Have to power off & on again to continue

Expected Results:  cups should start

Additional info:

both cups & latest kernel downloaded today - 10Jan2005

Comment 1 Robert Nedbal 2005-01-12 16:28:17 UTC
*** Bug 144898 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 2 Kevin J. Miller 2005-01-12 19:02:40 UTC
I have the same problem on a HP x4000 workstation (dual 1700MHz
Xeon).  After hanging on the "starting cups" message for a minute or
two, I get the text screen, and the last message is the swap message.

Comment 3 Tudor Panaitescu 2005-01-13 04:57:53 UTC
The same thing on Compaq w6000, dual Xeon 2G, and also on x4000 dual
Xeon 2.2G. It seems to be realted to SMP because on my laptop P4 2G
everything works fine. The systems are freezing. I even tried to
recompile the "Vanilla" kernel from kernel.org and add the latest
cups-1.2.23. The same behavior. Definitely something w/ the SMP in 2.6.10

Comment 4 Robert Nedbal 2005-01-13 09:36:31 UTC
I don't think it's related to SMP. I'm using _single_ Athlon XP on
nForce2 motherboard and cups hangs during startup.

Comment 5 John Steinman 2005-01-13 12:04:42 UTC
I am getting the same hang at boot time after running "yum" to upgrade
a fresh installation. I was able to boot using the original kernel so
 the CUPS code appears to be working with the old kernel.

rpm -qa | grep cups

rpm -qa | grep kernel

Comment 6 Terry Smith 2005-01-14 12:28:09 UTC
I started having this problem when I updated to Fedora2 Kernel
2.6.10.x and cups 1.1.20-11.9.  If I revert to kernel 2.6.9.x, my
system will boot properly.

Comment 7 Tudor Panaitescu 2005-01-14 12:47:15 UTC
Updated to kernel 2.6.10-1.741_FC3. The same thing. Tried to disable
cups from startup and tried to start it up after boot. The same thing,
the machine froze in ~2 mins. BUT: I had 2 other terms open, 1 w/ top
and I saw modprobe taking the CPU load to 99%. A ps -ef in the
available term said modprobe -q -- cha_major_6_0 and modprobe -q --
parport-lowlevel. Hope this helps.

Comment 8 Tony Albery 2005-01-16 13:09:47 UTC
Bug persists with kernel 2.6.10-1.741_FC3

Comment 9 Terry Smith 2005-01-20 12:25:39 UTC
I also have the problem with FC2 and the latest cups-1.1.20-11.10 with
Fedora Core (2.6.10-1.9_FC2) and (2.6.10-1.8_FC2).  Fedora Core
(2.6.9-1.11_FC2) will boot with that latest version of cups.

Comment 10 Ralf Sigmund 2005-01-26 10:07:24 UTC
the same for a fresh fc3 install after yum update to 2.6.10.

if i disable cups, then kudzu hangs.
Seems to be hardware dependend as the same installation runs perfectly
on my centrino notebook 

Comment 11 Kevin J. Miller 2005-02-03 18:34:36 UTC
Bug persists with kernel 2.6.10-1.760_FC3.

Comment 12 Bill McGonigle 2005-02-05 07:04:34 UTC
same symptoms on a Compaq Presario single 2.5GHz P4

Comment 13 John Steinman 2005-02-05 12:37:50 UTC
Same problem exist on my Compaq Presario Laptop 1800 Series when I
upgrade to 2.6.9-1.11_FC2 this bug appears to be in the new kernels in
both FC2 and FC3. The only I can get my systems to boot is to disable
CUPS or boot the older kernel.

Dave, is there anything we can do to help you isolate this problem or
obtain more information?

Comment 14 John Steinman 2005-02-16 13:05:17 UTC

I just updated to on my Presario Laptop 1800 and my AMD
system, the problem still exist under this release. I haven't tried
this on FC3 I had dropped back to FC2 to continue my development. This
is now becoming an issue as it is slowing down product development
under FC2. I have disable CUPS as a work around for the time being.

Comment 15 Robert Nedbal 2005-02-16 13:55:34 UTC
Nothing chaged with latest 2.6.10-1.766_FC3 kernel (system hangs while
starting cups).

I'm still forced to use old 2.6.9-1.724_FC3 that has security issues,
but it's the latest kernel that works. And I'm not very happy with that.

Comment 16 Kyle Pointer 2005-02-24 00:10:32 UTC
happens to me too on an eMachines T2245 with a HP Deskjet 3745 printer.
:( Using old kernel works but I don't really want to use an old kernel. :S

Comment 17 John Steinman 2005-03-04 13:06:17 UTC
Just installed the latest kernel patch and the problem is still
present. I booted the system with CUPS disable and started top "top -d
1" than started CUPS. What I found is the system isn't hung but it
does appear that modprobe is taking up 99.9% of the cpu so I believe
we still have a "modprobe" problem in the kern.

Comment 18 mgm 2005-03-11 14:41:57 UTC
I have the same problem on my Compaq Presario 1800 laptop.  All 2.6.10 kernels
I've tried to date (up to -1.770_FC3) exhibit this problem.  Old 2.6.9-1.724_FC3
works fine every time.  Agree that it is hardware dependent because I have 3
other machines of varying type and vintage and they all work fine.  BTW, I did
include a chunk of /var/log/messages from a failed boot in bug 147299 because I
thought this bug and that one were the same.

Comment 19 mgm 2005-03-15 22:44:36 UTC
Ok, last night I tried passing acpi=off to the kernel in grub.conf and 2.6.10
kernels work fine.  Never had to do this with 2.6.9 kernels.  What changed with

Comment 20 Robert Nedbal 2005-03-15 23:26:20 UTC
Passing acpi=off on my PC does not help (Athlon XP, nForce2 chipset). I'm still
forced to use 2.6.9-1.724_FC3 kernel.

Comment 21 Rus Richter 2005-03-26 20:02:14 UTC
I don't know that this is pertinent, but I thought any extra information can't hurt.

I have the 2.6.10-1.770_FC3 kernel and I have the same problem with cups hanging
(cups-1.1.22-0.rc1.8.5, cup-libs-1.1.22-0.rc1.8.5) in all the kernels I've tried
since 2.6.8-1.521 in FC2. I had been booting the working kernel while I was
still using FC2. When I switched to FC3, I just commented out cups startup. I
have VMWare on this system. Since I was using a new kernel, I needed to
re-configure VMWare. One step of the process of re-configuring involve doing a
"/sbin/modprobe parport_pc" which would also hang the system.

Now, the only other subsystem I know that commonly uses the parallel port is the
printing system. This leads me to suspect that the culprit for the cups hang is
somewhere in the kernel's handling of the parallel port.

I hope this helps.

Comment 22 Tony Albery 2005-04-12 19:57:09 UTC
problem persists with kernel 2.6.11-1.14_FC3

Comment 23 John Steinman 2005-04-15 15:24:05 UTC
This problem persists and is now affecting other utilities like network
settings. I have isolated the command line and arguments that cause âmodprobeâ
on my Compaq 1800 laptop to appear to hang. âmodprobeâ is using 99.3% of the CPU
with the following command line is executed:

/sbin/modprobe -s -q parport_pc

This is now preventing any development on the update kernel on this laptop. We
have a problem here that appears to be platform specific and it need to be fix soon.

Comment 24 Dave Jones 2005-04-15 20:42:37 UTC
Thanks for chasing this down. Few more questions..

do you have any parport options in /etc/modprobe.conf ?

if you hit ctrl-scroll lock, you should get backtraces of every process running.
Can you paste the modprobe trace ?

Do you actually have anything connected to your parallel port ?

Comment 25 John Steinman 2005-04-15 21:07:31 UTC
do you have any parport options in /etc/modprobe.conf ?

> cat modprobe.conf
alias eth0 e100
alias snd-card-0 snd-es1938
install snd-es1938 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-es1938 &&
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-es1938 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; };
/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-es1938
alias usb-controller uhci-hcd

if you hit ctrl-scroll lock, you should get backtraces of every process running.
Can you paste the modprobe trace ?

I'll try this the next time I reboot on the failing kernel.

Do you actually have anything connected to your parallel port ? NO

Comment 26 John Steinman 2005-04-15 21:36:36 UTC
I tried the ctrl-scroll lock but nothing happened. I could be doing it wrong.

Comment 27 Tim Waugh 2005-04-26 09:59:32 UTC
*** Bug 155927 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 28 Warren Togami 2005-04-26 20:02:36 UTC
(cross referencing more complaints)

Comment 29 Remco Treffkorn 2005-04-26 20:23:39 UTC
Thanks for finding the parport_pc loading problem. 
Since I don't have anything on the parallel port, I simply removed the 
parport_pc.ko and cups works fine now. 

Comment 30 Andre Robatino 2005-04-26 22:36:51 UTC
  Regarding comment #21 mentioning the kernel's handling of the parallel port,
this may be related to bug #145151.  Both bugs are triggered by exactly the same
kernel versions (2.6.10 and up).

Comment 31 Andre Robatino 2005-04-27 03:35:09 UTC
  Regarding comment #29, bug #145151 involves the kernel not finding a printer
which is connected to the parallel port.  In that case, a workaround is to add 2
lines to modprobe.conf:

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7

(assuming only one parallel port printer).  This tells the kernel that a device
is there, even though it thinks there isn't.  Is it possible to add something
similar to modprobe.conf to tell it that there is nothing on the parallel port,
even if it thinks there is?  Seems to me that removing a module is a little

Comment 32 Remco Treffkorn 2005-04-27 05:15:32 UTC
(In reply to comment #31) 
> Seems to me that removing a module is a little 
> excessive. 
Not if it is broken. How you work around the problem is an individual choice. 
What works for me might not work for you. 
The real solution is to fix the bug. 
Is this something LKML is working on? Or is it Fedora only? 

Comment 33 Dave Jones 2005-04-28 21:12:17 UTC
I've not seen it mentioned upstream, but I'd be very surprised if its a Fedora
specific bug, as we don't have any patches to the parport driver.

Comment 34 Remco Treffkorn 2005-04-28 21:40:00 UTC
The kernel change log shows a 'fix' to parport in 2.6.10. The 2.6.11 change 
log shows another fix regarding module parameter passing. 
I'll try to get a .11 kernel and test that. 

Comment 35 Sadanand Hegde 2005-05-29 15:48:29 UTC
The workaround given in comment #29 worked for me.
Now I am able to boot with cups started, I am able to goto internet-druid etc etc.

Comment 36 Tim Waugh 2005-05-29 15:59:55 UTC
*** Bug 159096 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 37 Tim Waugh 2005-05-31 08:05:26 UTC
*** Bug 159124 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 38 Sadanand Hegde 2005-05-31 11:42:28 UTC
(In reply to comment #35)
> The workaround given in comment #29 worked for me.
> Now I am able to boot with cups started, I am able to goto internet-druid etc etc.

Sorry the comment #31 worked for  me.

Comment 39 Sadanand Hegde 2005-05-31 11:46:26 UTC
(In reply to comment #38)
> (In reply to comment #35)
> > The workaround given in comment #29 worked for me.
> > Now I am able to boot with cups started, I am able to goto internet-druid
etc etc.

I am sorry about this. I think these comment numbers are dynamic, the number
keeps changing each time I load the web page.

The work around that worked for me is to add the following two lines to my

 alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7

Comment 40 John Flannery 2005-05-31 12:01:30 UTC
The above also worked for me.

Comment 41 John Steinman 2005-06-02 23:50:00 UTC
The work around to add the following line to modprobe.conf:

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7

worked for my Compaq Presario 1800 Laptop. This doesn't fix the real problem
however and I would think before the code goes to RedHat Enterprise the problem
should be corrected. We shouldn't have to use the work around.

Comment 42 Jan Merka 2005-06-13 22:22:14 UTC
(In reply to comment #41)
> The work around to add the following line to modprobe.conf:
> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7
> worked for my Compaq Presario 1800 Laptop. This doesn't fix the real problem
> however and I would think before the code goes to RedHat Enterprise the problem
> should be corrected. We shouldn't have to use the work around.

Sorry for posting it here even though I don't use FC but this seems to be the
most comprehensive discussion of the kernel freezing when cups is started.

On my dual-Opteron server, vanilla kernels freeze when cups is
started. A ***WORKAROUND*** is to do

chmod -x /usr/lib/cups/backand/serial

Then it becomes possible to start the cups service. Of course, it doesn't help
if you have got a serial printer.

Apparently there is something wrong with the kernel serial driver in the latest
2.6 kernels. 

Comment 43 Jan Merka 2005-06-13 22:26:37 UTC
(In reply to comment #42)
> chmod -x /usr/lib/cups/backand/serial
Sorry for the typo, this should read

chmod -x /usr/lib/cups/backend/serial

Comment 44 Dave Jones 2005-07-15 17:36:34 UTC
An update has been released for Fedora Core 3 (kernel-2.6.12-1.1372_FC3) which
may contain a fix for your problem.   Please update to this new kernel, and
report whether or not it fixes your problem.

If you have updated to Fedora Core 4 since this bug was opened, and the problem
still occurs with the latest updates for that release, please change the version
field of this bug to 'fc4'.

Thank you.

Comment 45 Tony Albery 2005-07-15 20:26:59 UTC
Updated to kernel-2.6.12-1.1372_FC3. On load came up with message saying 
failed to detect Canon BJC250 printer which is on parallel port. 1st time I 
have seen this message. Gave me option to remove from configuration which I 
accepted. Subsequent attempt to start cups caused PC to hang as usual. Had to 
force power down to reboot.

Comment 46 Jay Hilliard 2005-08-25 16:57:59 UTC
I'm also continuing to see the cups hang on kernel-2.6.12-1.1372_FC3
The modprobe.conf workaround works.

Comment 47 Mike Breen 2005-10-03 18:24:09 UTC
Got this problem only after upgrading from FC3 to FC4.
Kernels are customized vanillas (2.6.11 with FC3,
2.6.13 with FC4), not FC.
FC4: cups-1.1.23-15
FC3: cups-1.1.22-0.rc1.8

My case is unusual as I don't use the parallel port for
printing - and I changed rc.sysinit to make it easier to 
use it for something else:

> # start network connection over parallel port
> #
> action "Enable network connection over parallel port (PLIP): " /sbin/ifconfig 
plip0 laptop pointopoint desktop netmask up

This is a convenience to enable connection to an old machine
using the parallel port without logging in as root.
Normally 'desktop' isn't connected (so there's a timeout 
message in the bootup sequence). This all worked fine with 
FC3 and before.

Yes, that's a hack, but it's no excuse for CUPS to hang...

Stack trace (copied by hand):

(The "claim or block" bit looks a bit lazy/greedy/
aggressive - surely CUPS should allow for the parallel
port being used for something else.)

Because it was a hack, I took out the 'ifconfig' from
rc.sysinit and fixed things up properly by creating
a file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-plip:

This didn't work either because (of course) the network
service is started before CUPS. Now, adding "ONBOOT=no"
to the above gets around this problem but means that the
connection must be brought up manually whenever needed.
Either that, or add a new service that runs after CUPS 
and just does 'ifup plip' or something...

Incidentally, taking a cue from Jan Merkaon's tip, I also
tried 'fixing' the problem by doing
	chmod -x /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel
This worked as far as startup was concerned but caused a 
printer config GUI tool to hang later when I tried to set 
up a USB printer so I had to chmod +x it back again.

And the printer config tool also hangs if the plip 
connection is up when add printer is attempted. Which
makes the extra service hack above less desirable too.

Comment 48 Dave Jones 2005-11-10 19:04:18 UTC
2.6.14-1.1637_FC4 has been released as an update for FC4.
Please retest with this update, as a large amount of code has been changed in
this release, which may have fixed your problem.

Thank you.

Comment 49 Dave Jones 2006-02-03 05:12:22 UTC
This is a mass-update to all currently open kernel bugs.

A new kernel update has been released (Version: 2.6.15-1.1830_FC4)
based upon a new upstream kernel release.

Please retest against this new kernel, as a large number of patches
go into each upstream release, possibly including changes that
may address this problem.

This bug has been placed in NEEDINFO_REPORTER state.
Due to the large volume of inactive bugs in bugzilla, if this bug is
still in this state in two weeks time, it will be closed.

Should this bug still be relevant after this period, the reporter
can reopen the bug at any time. Any other users on the Cc: list
of this bug can request that the bug be reopened by adding a
comment to the bug.

If this bug is a problem preventing you from installing the
release this version is filed against, please see bug 169613.

Thank you.

Comment 50 Mike Breen 2006-03-29 17:35:49 UTC
The experience I reported above actually resulted
from a separate problem arising from an inadvertent
local change to the kernel config combined with the
fact that lp and plip won't normally work together
if both are loaded.
So, at least as far as I'm concerned, this bug can
be closed.

Comment 51 Tim Waugh 2006-03-30 08:58:23 UTC

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