Description of problem: Be it with runlevel 5 or startx in runlevel 3, whether Selinux is off, Permissive, or Enforcing. Whatever I do, it just doesn't work. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.1-0.25.20080227.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.1-0.25.20080227.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-2.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-utils-7.3-3.fc9.x86_64 How reproducible: 100%
Created attachment 296273 [details] /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Created attachment 296274 [details] Xorg running in gdb forgot to add one more … with or without /etc/X11/xorg.conf (these particularly are without /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
Created attachment 296275 [details] /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old don’t know if this one is of any worth
Backing off to xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.1-0.23.20080222.fc9 xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.1-0.23.20080222.fc9 does resolve the problem for me with xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-2.fc9 left in place. Using the previous version of xorg-x11-drv-ati but with the current xorg-x11-server-{Xorg,common} does not help. AFAICS a display is not only switched off but it remains that way until on a reboot BIOS reinitializes it. Just stopping X is of no use.
Ditto on Intel hardware. Backing off to version 1.4.99.1-0.23.20080222 works for me as well.
Happens on Intel G35 chipset. Recompiling xorg-x11-drv-intel from git (master branch) seems to solve the black screen problem with the xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.1-0.23.20080222.fc9 version of the X server.
I should clarify my statements above in Comment #6. With my ThinkPad T61 with Intel graphics: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Lenovo Unknown device 20b5 and these versions: xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-2.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.1-0.23.20080222.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.1-0.23.20080222.fc9.x86_64 X starts fine, but the backlight is turned off. Running "xbacklight -set 100" in the dark restores the display to a usable state and I can use X fine after that. With the server upgraded to: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.1-0.26.20080227.fc9 xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.1-0.26.20080227.fc9 then X doesn't start successfully at all--it just crashes and leaves the screen blank (but the brightness is fine, the backlight is not turned off). Changing VTs back to 1 with Ctrl-Alt-F1 allows the text console to be used without problems.
(In reply to comment #5) > Backing off to > > xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.1-0.23.20080222.fc9 > xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.1-0.23.20080222.fc9 Yeah, this works for me too (at least for startx in runlevel 3)
Mar 3rd updates which include xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-3.fc9.x86_64 appears to fix the problem on my intel G35 machine.
*** Bug 435649 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-3.fc9 fixes the same problem for me (from bug 435649).
*** Bug 435615 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 435782 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
After updates to xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.1-0.26.20080227.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.1-0.26.20080227.fc9.x86_64 and xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-3.fc9.x86_64 that combination looks to me like workable. A keyboard is still messed up but this is another issue.
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-3.fc9.x86_64 and xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.1-0.26.20080227.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.1-0.26.20080227.fc9.x86_64 appear to work also, large text issue however remains: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435216 along with 3D regression: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=434825
OK, my bug was marked as duplicate of this bug, but it was not :-) Anyway everything works with Xorg from March 03, except vt swtiching, but that's another bug.
Which VT-switching bug is that? I see bug 388181, but that doesn't seem to describe the problem I'm seeing, wherein VT-switching seems to be simply disabled. (I.e., once X is running, none of Ctrl-Alt-F1 through Ctrl-Alt-F6 actually switch back to the corresponding VT; nothing happens when you press them...)
With these versions: kernel-2.6.25-0.87.rc3.git4.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-4.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.900-0.27.20080303.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.900-0.27.20080303.fc9.x86_64 The X server no longer crashes at startup. However, the backlight still remains off after starting. I have to log in at the gdm screen with the backlight off, then open a gnome-terminal and type "xbacklight -set 100" to make X usable. Also, VT switching with Ctrl-Alt-F1 now works but leaves the display blank or the backlight turned off. Ctrl-Alt-F7 restores the X session and turns the backlight back on.
I have the same problem as Charles Anderson on a ThinkPad X61s. My machine has the same driver and server release. I've been working around the backlight issue by running an old F8 kernel, kernel-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64.
I still have the backlight issue with these packages: kernel-2.6.25-0.107.rc5.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-10.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.901-1.20080307.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.901-1.20080307.fc9.x86_64 I've found that disabling RHGB works around the problem somewhat. The backlight stays lit unless switched to a virtual console.
I have the same problem with the Fedora 9 Beta Live CD on HP NX7400.
FWIW, this problem no longer happens for me on ThinkPad T61 w/Intel GM965. It was fixed quite a while back for me, but these are the versions I'm running now: kernel-2.6.25-0.185.rc7.git6.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-19.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.901-16.20080401.fc9.x86_64 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.901-16.20080401.fc9.x86_64
I think this has been solved some time ago and I (in the authority of bug reporter) cannot reproduce it. So (in the authority of a bug triager ;-)) I am now closing it.